P210

It will be interesting to see how the quality of a new P210 compares to the originals. I can't help but wonder if a NH sig wont live up to the expectation. If this ends up being the pistol version of what the US 556 was to the original 55X series that would be a real shame. Articles describing the pistol say things like "slight modifications to the way the gun is manufactured" and that is disconcerting. I look forward to seeing true user reviews from people who have paid real money for guns off the production line. I genuinely hope sig does this one right.

The U.S. P210 is significantly different from the originals. It uses the 1911-style controls, which first appeared on German target P210s in 2012. In addition, apparently it locks into the ejection port. It's going to be an awesome gun in its own right, but it's not going to satisfy purists. And even at $1,100 street price, it's going to be more expensive than CZ-75 and the 9mm 1911 that everybody rushed to make in the last year (although, prices of the likes of Wilson Combat make P210 positively affordable in comparison).

Very cool if it ever actually shows, but they should have called it something else. It's very different from the original 210 design. I guess kinda like new Camaro vs old Camaro

Girodin said:

It will be interesting to see how the quality of a new P210 compares to the originals. I can't help but wonder if a NH sig wont live up to the expectation.

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While I own quite a few W. German SIGs and a couple German models, about half the SIGs I have are Exeter models. I'd like to believe that the company is committed to maintaining the quality of the originals, and having picked up one of the new 225-A1s, which has been splendid, I'm pretty encouraged. If SIG does to the 210 what they did with the 225, it should prove to be a worthy addition to the line.

And having owned a new Camaro thirty years after my first one, I can definitely state than my '14 is light-years beyond my '83.

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I hear SIG is going to make the P210 again... They have produced a few.

The P210 is one of my dream guns. Would love to have one no matter where it was made as long as I can afford it.

I'm not sure that a P-210 will be THAT much better than a P-226 X-Five (in 9mm).

Some years back I had an older (made in '76) P-210-6, and it was a sweet-shooting, very accurate gun. But that older style had some issues: single-stack 8-round mags, european type mag release (on the butt of the grip), sharp edges on the sights, EXPENSIVE magazines (roughly $100, then) and HARD to get and expensive parts if you ever ever need them or want spares. Mine came with a proof target showing a 1.75" five shot group at 50 meters (roughly 53 yards), and I've seen smaller groups from the proof targets of other P-210s.

If the new guns offer quality that is comparable to the old ones, and model changes address the short-comings (some of which WERE addressed with newer models), they could be a great buy, but I'm not sure they'll be that much better than an X-Five. I'll also be surprised if they sell for anywhere near the $1100 amount cited above.

I have seen the ones from Germany priced at about $2300 few years ago. They had fixed rear sight version and one with fully adjustable rear sight. Nice guns.

Last I heard, Germany was NOT exporting SIGs to the U.S. (due to the German government's displeasure with how they shipped German-made SIGs to countries Germany didn't want them sent to...) and only guns made in the U.S. by SIG was available. Are the new P-210 going to be made in the U.S.? (Or has the export restriction been lifted?)

The original Swiss made pistols are incredible. I have a few I bought years ago.

The most beautiful SIG 210 I have is this officers presentation gun made in 1950, with a fitted alligator skin case, cleaning kit and dummy cartridges. The dagger is a Swiss M-1943.


The most practical is this Danish M49 contract pistol that the late Joe Bonar of Novak's customized some years back. Note it has been modified with a 1911 style magazine release.


This one was made around 1958. These truly are beautifully made pistols capable of astounding accuracy. The knife was made by Eichorn in Germany.

1KPerDay said:

I guess kinda like new Camaro vs old Camaro

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That’s a great analogy. Some people think it’s wrong to not have the original.

Some like me want the newer version. Almost as much class, without all the fuss.

I have been thinking about a 9mm 1911 or a P225. I think I will wait and see how

the P210 looks when it comes out.

Walt Sherrill said:

Last I heard, Germany was NOT exporting SIGs to the U.S. (due to the German government's displeasure with how they shipped German-made SIGs to countries Germany didn't want them sent to...) and only guns made in the U.S. by SIG was available. Are the new P-210 going to be made in the U.S.? (Or has the export restriction been lifted?)

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The "American P210" is going to be made stateside at SIG's state of the art new school manufacturing facility. Last I heard from reports out of Shot 2017 is the street price is going to be around $1600 which is quite a bit less than the original P210 but certainly not chump change. Considering there will be much less hand labor and most likely significantly higher volume production, SIG can certainly make a very fine firearm for "only" $1600 . I am looking forward to see what they come up with and how accuracy and reliability compares to the original P210.

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It's only the target model being done. I wish they were making a service model too.

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According to the Sig rep who was just at my local shop for a demo, there will be other variants of the "new" P210 including a carry version. He thought they'd be available later this year.

Well, it will have a heck of a reputation to live up to. First of all, it will have to be accurate - really accurate. More accurate than anything else Sig-Sauer produces, which is quite a challenge. That sort of accuracy will be hard for most of us to really use in practical shooting, but we'll need to know it is in the gun. That sort of accuracy can only come from a longer, and perfectly made, barrel (5+); a perfect lockup; a superb trigger; and wonderful sights. Most of those things can be achieved with top-quality materials and high-end manufacturing, but the perfect lockup of the barrel to the slide will require high-quality fitting.

Will the slide be on the inside rather than the outside of the rails? They need to be on the inside, even if that is more expensive than the standard slide/rail arrangement, to maintain the mystique as well as give it a nominally better chance to achieve top accuracy.

Worth $1600? Probably. I think most of us hanker after a pistol that is above all the rest, and that would be a reasonable price for such a pistol. We strive for that sort of goal sometimes by modifying and personalizing handguns that we own, but it is hard to get to that level. A 1911 can get there, but usually for not less than $2500 or so, and I get the feeling a lot of them disappoint in one small way or another. If you buy just one top end pistol, the P220-American would be the one to scrimp and save for.

The first couple of reviews of the P210-American (or P210A, to make up a name for it) will be critical to establishing its reputation. Oh, and it will have to be utterly reliable and look beautiful. Did I mention Nil wooden grips? Even if you prefer G-10, this thing will have to come with Nills...

gopguy, you have some beauties there!!!

I wish SIG every success with the American made P210, but wonder if it will ever actually make it to market. I've had a few of the Swiss and German versions over the years, in fact just bought another Swiss 210. I bought my first 210 30 years ago. All of mine were shot, no safe queens. Just beautifully machined inside and out, closely, meticulously fitted, flawlessly reliable, very accurate and durable. I admit I've never owned a Korth or Korriphila, but due to my experience with the 210s I came to believe there may be no finer factory built semi-auto pistols to be had. I also admit that I'm not a likely customer for the American version, but who knows? The American 210 will certainly outwardly resemble the earlier versions, but won't be near the same gun,i.e., the barrel locking system is significantly different necessitating different barrel and slide profiles, placement of controls more like the 1911, etc. But, the much lower price point, and availability of factory support and parts, might result in more American 210s being manufactured than all the Swiss and German 210s combined. IF, SIG can actually bring it to market and maintain that perception of superior quality that 210s have always been known for........ymmv

Thanks Rock, they are fine examples of the gun smith's art.

gopguy, awesome collection and pics!

Walt Sherrill said:

I'm not sure that a P-210 will be THAT much better than a P-226 X-Five (in 9mm).

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Dave Anderson did a comparison of the two in a Jul/Aug 2014 American Handgunner article. He preferred the X-Five. Page 22

http://fmgpublications.ipaperus.com/FMGPublications/AmericanHandgunner/AHJA14/

I've owned a P-210-6, which was a great shooter, and a P226 X-Five Competition (SA) in .40). My X-5 was badly oversprung, and SIG wouldn't help much, and I don't shoot .40 most guns that well -- so I eventually sold it. It was a beautiful gun, and the 9mm versions I have shot seemed to be a close match for the P-210-6. If a P210 was a LOT more expensive than an X-Five, I'd probably go with X-Five, but a P210 would be a more practical carry weapon than an X-Five.

Walt, Yea I had an X-5 9MM. Just as accurate and reliable as the 210s I've owned. A very nice gun in all respects. I've owned a bunch of SIGs since the '80s, and carried one 40+ hours a week for several years, but my X-5 seemed kinda like a large power tool. Not Desert Eagle large certainly, but a bit much for carry for some of us IMHO.

I've got an X6 Scandic I shoot competitively sometimes, but there is no way it could be a carry gun, just way too big. It is, however, extraordinarily accurate. I was shooting a charity 3 gun event a few months back and we used it for plinking some 100 yard 6x9 steel targets that had been set up for rifles. I'd love to get a new P210 if the accuracy is close to the old ones.

I cannot afford to breathe on a P-210, much less own one, very much less three! Very nice, gopguy, very nice indeed. Walt mentioned many times how nice his was, and it has always been on my "win the lottery" list.