Kahr??

My CM9 is easily carried and very accurate for its size. Never had any trouble with it either, always fed and fired just fine. Works in the pocket in cargo pants and shorts, and iwb on my jeans.

I bought one years ago before everyone made thin single stack pistols , a P9 . I think I like most of the other brands better , but I like the feel of it in my hand better than any others that I have held . That's about the only plus I give it .

I don't really like the trigger , long , but smooth pull .
I don't like the magazine , the ammo wants to nosedive .
If you like to slingshot the slide , most of the time mine will not and Kahr states not to chamber a round like that , so its not a malfunction .
I had a problem with the magazine dropping while firing it . This has been a problem with them in the past . I replaced the magazine catch and it has not dropped again in 100 rds. .
Bad customer service in my experience with the magazine catch .

PPS
Shield
Glock 43
Xds

I would pick any of the above over my Kahr .

I have wanted one for a while but never found one when I had the cash. The only draw back I have seen is reports of magazine issues.

I've been happy with my CM9, I like the trigger, I can shoot it accurately, recoil is not too bad and I haven't had a malfunction with mine so far.

My review of the Kahr CM9:

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/review-of-kahr-cm9.754205/

I did lose a magazine part when the base plate just slide off once... the locking plate went flying and I never found it

I did get Kahr to replace though, my CM9 needed a rampectomy so I sent the mag with the broken follower and missing lock plate into Kahr and it came back with a new follower and locking plate (and shortened feed ramp)

I've got a CW45, Cm9, and CW380. I like the Kahr trigger, overall layout, and how well they carry. CW45 was a real dog to begin with. Even had to replace the frame. Now it works great and I love to shoot it.

I prefer pocket carry, which is why I got the CM9. It's a pretty forgiving shooter and only had one fail, which was a shooter induced stovepipe during an IDPA match. I'll be using it again tomorrow morning in an IDPA match.

I wanted something even smaller than the CM9 for summer pocket carry, so I picked up a CW 380. It really disappears in the pocket, but I had to modify the extractor so that it would reliably feed fiocchi brass (common problem).

Try out a CM or CW series. The P series aren't worth the money IMO.

Pass on a Kahr – my CT380 has proven to be unreliable.

Mine have been great. I've never had ammo nose dive or other mag problems.

My experience with the CM9 has been 100%. It gets carried holstered in my jeans front pocket.

My P380 has been 100%, too. I followed the break-in advice from Kahr when I bought it and haven't had a problem with it or the magazines. Mine doesn't feed the Hornady Critical Defense ammo very well, but Gold Dot , Federal HST, and my handloads all chamber and function perfectly. It fires and ejects the the Hornady, so I suspect the polymer plug in the bullet retards the forward motion. But I haven't looked into it further, just shot what I had left in another .380 and switched to a JHP with a more round ogive. I also owned a P9 but sold it to fund another firearm. Triggers are long, but as stated earlier, comparable to a smooth revolver trigger.

I thought the K9 was a good pistol.


The P9 is a lighter plastic version.

The Mk9 and Pm9 are popular carry pistols, but a bit small. And I'd rather have a Glock 43.


My P380 requires hot ammo. Not uncommon for a mouse gun. Corbon +p is GTG.

My first carry gun was a Kahr CW9. I loved it. It shot very well for its size and carried even better. I shot 2000 rounds through it without any malfunctions before I sold it. But if I were looking at getting another single stack carry gun I would have to go with the Glock 43 because the trigger allows me to shoot it faster and more accurately than the revolver-like trigger of the Kahr. But that's just my personal preference at this time, the Kahr is a great gun by any means.

I bought a Kahr CM9 a few months ago. In all honesty I only have about 220 rounds through it. I completed the break in & shot a couple of magazines of Federal HST through it. I didn't have any problem other than the 7 round magazine would only hold 6 rounds to start with. I used a pin punch to pop it apart & reassemble it & it is fine.

I have a cm9 that is five years old ,Never a problem, Great carry piece.

The variety of responses already posted is typical of the aggregate opinion on Kahrs: about 80% positive and 20% negative. If you get good ones and like the long, smooth trigger, you'll like them.

I have the CM9 for pocket carry (in a minimal kydex trigger guard holster), the CW9 for IWB/OWB carry (it is the same size & capacity options as the S&W Shield), and CT9 for bedside. The longest magazines work in all models giving 8+1 capacity. Mine - obviously - are a sample of those that work reliably. And I also spent some time with files & fine sandpaper breaking the sharp edges of the slide release levers.

I had a pm40 that was not at all reliable enough for carry. I’m not sure but perhaps the 9mm versions run better.

Peakbagger46 said:

I had a pm40 that was not at all reliable enough for carry. I’m not sure but perhaps the 9mm versions run better.

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I've often thought that the Kahr design seems to favor the 9mm. That was their original design caliber. Scaling it down for 380 challenges the design in one way. Just that much less real estate to work with. Scaling it up for the 40 and 45 create other challenges, like maybe more frame flex.

Love my CM9! Ergonomics are perfect (at least for me), and I always liked a DA trigger as I started out with DA revolvers, like a Charter Arms Undercover and S&W Model 36, when I first started to carry. The DAO trigger on my CM9 while somewhat long, is very smooth and easy to get accustomed to, especially when transitioning from revolver to semi-auto. Never had a problem with my gun and have found it very easy and comfortable to carry concealed.

I have a K9 and K40 with the older matte blue(oxide) finish. Both have been reliable with factory ammo,Hydra-shok(old carry ammo),HST,GoldDots. They were both finicky about reloads, good reloads(mine) no problem. Issued crappy reloaded training ammo they would not chamber all the way. Both have been accurate.

If you're a revolver guy looking for a compact semi auto with a smooth DOA trigger pull give them a look. The full size K series are about the size of a PPK/s but with more serious cartridges. I never had any problems with the mags except for the price.

My CM9 has become my #1 carry pistol. You're going to get all kinds of opinions on a forum... I was expecting some reliability issues when mine was new, so I started with FMJ RN bullets only. I got bored with that real quick... I had zero malfunctions. I started mixing my loads with round nose, hollow point, you name it and I stuck it in the magazine. Mine never missed a beat. I've got roughly 500 rounds through mine now and it is still absolutely 100%. Not one single malfunction of any type. Not only that, but I've found it to be totally suitable as a carry gun - as accurate as any other small pistol and just as easy to handle in my opinion. I use mine exactly as it came from the factory - no special grip sleeve, no extended magazine, etc. I bought it because it's small, and if I need something with a bigger magazine, I carry a bigger handgun. I made ONE change - I put a set of high quality low-profile sights on it, with a fiber optic front sight.

Another plus... mine has smoothed out considerably. I already liked the trigger as it came, but it has gotten much smoother with a higher round count. Unlike some other small handguns, I've found the Kahr pleasant enough to shoot that I routinely give it some range time. My Springfield XDs on the other hand, is not nearly as comfortable to shoot, and I had to put a Powder River spring kit in it to make the trigger even approach the feel of the standard Kahr trigger.

The mechanicals of the Kahr are fairly simple as well. When disassembled, you'll see exactly how the trigger mechanism engages the sear. This is one pistol where I put a tiny dab of grease (Slip2000 in my case) on the sear when reassembling. It stays in place nicely and I believe it contributes to the already-smooth action.

Kahr used to have really nice triggers. They were long, but usually quite smooth and light enough to make them very easy shooters out of the box. That isn't so anymore. They've upped the weights on the triggers the last few years capitulating to political pressure from their manufacturing state of Massachusetts.

I would not buy a Kahr without dry firing it to see if it's a good old one, or a heavy new one.

Kahrmine said:

Kahr used to have really nice triggers. They were long, but usually quite smooth and light enough to make them very easy shooters out of the box. That isn't so anymore. They've upped the weights on the triggers the last few years capitulating to political pressure from their manufacturing state of Massachusetts.

I would not buy a Kahr without dry firing it to see if it's a good old one, or a heavy new one.

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Do you have a source for this?

I've got a CW45 from circa 2013, a cm9 from 2014 or 2015, and a 2017 cw380. The triggers feel the same.

The only triggers I was aware of was the old "NYPD" trigger with 1/8" more travel and the "Elite" trigger. Only the NYPD K9 has the NYPD trigger.

Even if newer models have "upped weights" a few spring swaps would fix it.

I'm afraid that my experience with Kahr was negative overall. I have a P45 and it starts to misfeed once in 200 rounds or so, completely at random. Then, the problem mysteriously disappears. I spent quite a bit on buying factory magazines and converting 1911 magazines, as well as on LakeLine aluminum followers. But no matter what, it's just not reliable enough to trust.

After tinkering with the P45, and looking at Kahr guns in other people's use, I came to think that the design requires more repeatability at the factory that Kahr's factory can accomplish. Their guns make great service when the parts are on the center of the spec, but lemons are much too common. More common than with Glock, S&W, or Ruger.

Am I the only one who has a problem with buying a firearm from a company founded by the son of N. Korean cult leader Sun Myung Moon (i.e. the Moonies)?