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Anyone out there buy one of these? Thinking of picking one up.....any thoughts on this little shotgun that's is not considered a shotgun by BATF? Wish they made it in 20 gauge also.
I recently got one, I wouldn't recommend it as a first shotgun because a full stocked shotgun is more versatile.
It would be so, in that they are easy to store in the small spaces of a vehicle. Beyond that, there would be no benefit to one.It seems like the ideal gun to have in your car if legal where you live.
Which factor do you like better in a riot? The low capacity or the relative practical inaccuracy?Great for riots
Really? Have you ever worked with and fired a firearm inside a vehicle? What about a 26" long two-handed firearm with considerable recoil makes it great for using in or around a vehicle?great for a road rage incident
That's the best practical use for one. They are entertaining.Also seems to be fun to shoot from what people tell me.
As long as it has a stock that rests against your shoulder it is orders of magnitude more effective than any pistol-only-gripped shotgun.Or perhaps an 18" gun with a pistol grip.
As long as it has a stock that rests against your shoulder it is orders of magnitude more effective than any pistol-only-gripped shotgun.
There is a logical disconnect we all suffer from in varying degrees, which says that a handgun works well, and a full-stocked shotguns works well, so something that's sort of half-way between the two must work like "the best of both worlds."
The problem with that theory is that it isn't true at all. What works so well about a handgun is completely ruined by making it a long, heavy, bulky weapon that has to be supported (and operated) with a hand out on the fore stock. What works so well about a shotgun is completely ruined by taking the shoulder stock off.
We literally then have the WORST of both worlds.
Why not? A very easy alternative sideline product to put together requiring sourcing of very few parts not already in production lines. And an opportunity to capture a bit of market enthusiasm because of the appeal of the "thumb your nose at the NFA" angle. In very short time everyone who is tickled by that will have one and the market demand will drop to very low levels. They'll probably keep making them but won't sell nearly as many in coming years as they did in the flurry of marketing and internet hubbub at first release.Every time I see them for sale the price is lower than the time before.
Every time I see them for sale the price is lower than the time before.
Instead of buying a road rage/riot gun, I would find a better place to live or an anger management class.It seems like the ideal gun to have in your car if legal where you live. Great for riots, great for a road rage incident. Also seems to be fun to shoot from what people tell me.
I am going to get one for my next gun purchase.
Will look into an optic but will want a light on it first.
But it is not completely useless as some people say.
Instead of buying a road rage/riot gun, I would find a better place to live or an anger management class.
I wouldn't argue though it seems to me that neither police nor military forces who use shotguns tend to issue many with shorter than 18" barrels. (Some do, but probably 1% or fewer.)Its hard to overstate just how much handier short barrel guns are even compared to the typical 18-20" riot format.