Gun-related sayings that need to go away

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The whole "don't pull a .25 on somebody. If you do, you might have to shoot him with it. If you do shoot him with it, he might just find out. If he finds out, he might just be mad enough to beat you to death with it." thing..
 
I like "slow is smooth, smooth is fast". Cliche, yes, but I like the simple message of not rushimg and screwing things up.

I guess it should be "go only as fast as capable and necessary". But I guess it doesn't have a ring to it.

I really get sick of trendy social media catch phrases. Basically if it gets popular, I get annoyed. Things like "XD pistols are the McRib of handguns" since one guy made a flawed video on it (and deleted comments that were negative).

Or "pew pew" stuff. Or "gun normo" or "typical boomer" when it comes to describing certain firearm tastes. Or saying things like "MuH StOpPiNg PoWEr" with that kind of phrasing to make fun of opinions (even if I agree with the context, I find the format generally unoriginal and "group think")
 
GEM said:
I would add to our discussion - Have plan to kill everyone in the room.
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There’s so many military sayings that inapplicable and inappropriate to the civilian use of violence - which is almost always defensive instead of offensive and an exception to the law, not within some law of land warfare against an armed, uniformed, state-sanctioned adversary. Don’t even get me started on all the “terrorists” the US killed or captured with minimal suspicion of illegal activity and without ANY substantive form of due process under US, Iraqi or international law because it wasn’t a real war and they weren’t enemy combatants. What I mean to say by that is - no one in America can do any of those things acceptable in armed conflict on the street her in the US and expect to not be imprisoned...so they shouldn't even have that mindset which is supported by crazy sayings.

If anyone actually had been familiar with some of Middle Eastern culture, they’d know that being invited into a room by people almost certainly means they won’t kill you - they are responsible, culturally in many places, for your well being until you leave their abode.

Here’s another:

“If it’s worth shooting once, it’s worth shooting twice.”

Great in Sadr City. Not so much in Anytown, USA.

And one more:

“You’re either a wolf or a sheep.” Yeah, okay. I’ll just be a shepherd maybe? Or just a person with situational awareness. IDK. Maybe I’ll be a rainbow-colored unicorn...
 
"Its the Indian not the arrow"
"Shot placement is all that matters"

Or various takes on these. Not that they are untrue, they are absolutely true.

It's just that every time caliber or bullet type is discussed without fail a bunch of posts will be some variation of this, usually with a condescending tone. With most folks on gun forums that much is understood and might as well be stickied on every page.
 
Wisco said:
I believed it at Gen 2 and now again at Gen5. It’s a silly line for a company that kept changing things...
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I might have agreed but for the front strap cutout. Though the 19X is my poly striker gun perfection. I could happily dump the rest.
 
"Gun control" I got one that doesn't need to go away per op's request, Clint Eastwood once said "I have a very strict gun control policy; if there's a gun around, I want to be in control of it." Not in the context of "no one should have one but me" but more he just wants to shoot the thing, which is exactly how I feel when there's a gun around. Good ol Clint. Can't beat him.
 
JR24 said:
I might have agreed but for the front strap cutout. Though the 19X is my poly striker gun perfection. I could happily dump the rest.
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The 19X is so perfect I ended doubling it and buying two. Which is weird for a gun I dismissed immediately. That should be their slogan... “19X Perfection - other models may vary”
 
Mine is the old, "Nobody in a gun fight wishes they brought LESS gun." or something to that effect. OK, I get it, if i happen to get into a gun fight with a .22 in my pocket, I'm probably going to WISH I had brought the AR and 5 30 round magazines. Also, I'm probably going to WISH I weren't in a gun fight to begin with!

I'm not advocating that a .22 is as good as big bore in a fight, I'm just suggesting that the odds of carrying a large .45 and 4 extended mags on my belt probably won't be the deciding factor in how my ticket gets punched in mathematical reality. I know shootouts DO happen, but I'm fatalistic enough to think that if I am ever put in THAT situation, the universe has it in for me anyway.

I am way more of an optimist in hoping that the .380 in my pocket is more gun that the bad guy was expecting me to have brought and thankful to have SOMETHING to protect myself with in an emergency.
 
GEM said:
The two most important rules in a gunfight are: always cheat and always win.
- What does that actually mean?

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." -- Sigmund Freud
Probably never said in the texts. Also, not correct.

The Yamamoto quotes about not attacking the USA because there would be gun behind every tree. Probably never said and exhaustive studies of Japanese war plans indicate NO interest in invading the continental USA.
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Yamamoto absolutly never said that; he died during WW2 when his airplane was shot down by a flight of Army Air Force P-38 Lightnings. I can't prove his ghost DIDN'T say it, but that's a different story.
 
With all respect to Jeff Cooper, "All guns are always loaded!"

I never understood why we started teaching gun safety with something that was demonstrably false. I've also hear "treat all guns as though they are loaded" and "all guns are loaded until you personally verify otherwise" and I'm fine with those, but don't start teaching a new person about gun safety by telling a lie in rule #1.
 
Not really a gun saying. But the terms "[a person] opened fire....".

This is an artillery or naval term. It does not apply to someone with a firearm that shoots people.

Phrase I like; "The rifle is the queen of personal weapons". - Col. John Cooper
 
Guns don't have diets. They aren't eating the bullets you "feed" them.

"Keep your booger hook off the bang switch"

"I don't feel undergunned a bit"

"If you can't get the job done with six then you have no business being there"

And people who constantly feel the need to correct people who use mag and clip interchangeably. We all know which is right and which is wrong. We also all know exactly what the other person means.

I'm sure I'll think of more.
 
Guns don't have diets. They aren't eating the bullets you "feed" them.

"Keep your booger hook off the bang switch"

"I don't feel undergunned a bit"

"If you can't get the job done with six then you have no business being there"

And people who constantly feel the need to correct people who use mag and clip interchangeably. We all know which is right and which is wrong. We also all know exactly what the other person means.

I'm sure I'll think of more.
 
Jim Watson said:
"It's the Indian, not the arrow."
My retort is that the Grand Masters don't need a custom gun to beat me, but they need the best they can get to try to beat each other.
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It was Ross Seyfried that won an IPSC match with a stock Government model 1911 way back when. Yes, it was way back when, but even at that time modded 1911s were the fashion for matches.
 
waterhouse said:
With all respect to Jeff Cooper, "All guns are always loaded!"

I never understood why we started teaching gun safety with something that was demonstrably false. I've also hear "treat all guns as though they are loaded" and "all guns are loaded until you personally verify otherwise" and I'm fine with those, but don't start teaching a new person about gun safety by telling a lie in rule #1.
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You have to take this in context. Yes, if you are going to clean your gun, you clear it, and yes it is not loaded. The correct context is a general practice. And even if your are handling a cleared gun, you treat it as if it were loaded. EG: you don't point it at people, etc.
 
The whole "what's your life worth?" when suggesting carry guns (or criticizing the choices made by others.)

There is not one person who can make me understand the algorithm behind that. So, you carry a three-thousand-dollar gun. How does that tell me at what amount, in USD, you value your life? I haven't even come up with an amount at which I value mine.
 
1KPerDay said:
"If you get hit in the hand with .45 ACP it will knock you off your feet."

"The sound of a pump shotgun being racked is the best deterrent"

".22LR goes into the skull and bounces around and turns the brain to mush."

See my signature for another
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Going Gump on this one. Can’t help myself. “But Lieutenant Dan, you ain’t got no legs”...or signature.
 
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