It appears that in some places people are ignoring the bump stock ban.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...2FXbcwI3lQhA1lGeP5gBO-YPuQbmqxSl13fF1DKJs55AI
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...2FXbcwI3lQhA1lGeP5gBO-YPuQbmqxSl13fF1DKJs55AI
It was?The purpose of the ban was not to collect them, but to drive them underground.
People are probably cutting them up into small pieces and just putting it all in the trash.It appears that in some places people are ignoring the bump stock ban.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...2FXbcwI3lQhA1lGeP5gBO-YPuQbmqxSl13fF1DKJs55AI
I doubt it. They're probably just hiding them in the attic and hoping they won't be found.People are probably cutting them up into small pieces and just putting it all in the trash.
Anybody with half a brain knew that they wouldn't be turned in. But also, that you wouldn't be seeing them at the range any more.It was?
Never saw that coming.It appears that in some places people are ignoring the bump stock ban.
People are probably cutting them up into small pieces and just putting it all in the trash.
The purpose of the ban was not to collect them, but to drive them underground.
The purpose was to appease anti gun leftists. The effect is to make law abiding citizens chose between surrendering/destroying their property or becoming a criminal by default.Anybody with half a brain knew that they wouldn't be turned in. But also, that you wouldn't be seeing them at the range any more.
It appears that in some places people are ignoring the bump stock ban.
https://americanmilitarynews.com/20...2FXbcwI3lQhA1lGeP5gBO-YPuQbmqxSl13fF1DKJs55AI
The purpose was to appease anti gun leftists. The effect is to make law abiding citizens chose between surrendering/destroying their property or becoming a criminal by default.
The purpose of the ban was not to collect them, but to drive them underground. It seems that it is succeeding pretty well in this.
The unintended consequence, though, is this -- if being caught with a bump stock is the same as being caught with an actual machine gun, why not just go with an actual machine gun? The penalty is the same. What this has done is lower the psychological threshold of having an illegal machine gun.
I always thought that the pre-1986 NFA rules provided a "safety valve" for those that really wanted machine guns and other regulated items. Jump through the hoops and you could have one legally. The closing of the registry in 1986 led to workarounds such as bump stocks. Now, with the banning of these workarounds, there is no "safety valve" (other than paying many thousands of dollars for a legal machine gun) and people are just going to do whatever they want without regard to the law. Remember, these are otherwise law-abiding people. We're not talking about career criminals.
Yea like they do a raid on the wrong house by accident...I have heard an actual ATF agent comment on this issue. Granted, there is know way this individual FLEO could know for sure but his understanding was that they were not exactly going to be going after anyone (especially normal law abiding citizens) who still possessed a bump stock but rather would be treating it as a charge of opportunity in a greater crime such as drug dealing related crimes, etc.
If that is true, it sure seems to take a lot of the teeth out of it but still the law is the law.
It appears that in some places people are ignoring the bump stock ban.
I am. Not surprised at all, but mad.If you're going to be mad at anyone, be mad at them.
Just because a battle is lost doesn't mean that the war is too.That was the time for gun owners and our representatives to stand up and fight. Now, the battle is lose.
The war is lost for bump stocks as far as I'm concerned. SCOTUS does not seem interested in taking the case, the president of the U.S. and the majority of Americans agree with the ban, many gun owners who don't own one and who think it's a stupid invention are okay with the ban, the NRA is okay with the ban, etc... The fat lady has song on this one.I am. Not surprised at all, but mad.
Just because a battle is lost doesn't mean that the war is too.
Remember, these are otherwise law-abiding people. We're not talking about career criminals.
To me, a bump-fire stock is a device clearly designed to circumvent the machinegun ban, and should be regulated.
I still think it a good sacrificial lamb and a fight not worth fighting.
Flame suit on
I do not care about bump-stocks
It all came down to appeasing the left and giving them "something". I don't agree with the philosophy, only because it makes us look weak on other far more important things. You know that once you give them anything, they feel they can get more. That's it in a nut shell. Bump stocks aren't really the issue here it's the lock on the door that has now been opened.
I predicted that the popular Russian made Vepr AKs would been banned long before they were, and sure enough Trump had them banned from import. Now after the bump stock ban, and the precedence it set, I predict that arm braces will be next. Mark my works, it's just a matter of time that the braces, that many of the gun owners who wanted bumpstocks banned own and like, will be regulated as a SBR.Stop and look at the big picture.
The long term objective of any ban of any part of any firearm is to regulate all firearms. It's death by a thousand cuts. The goal is always the same - disarm the public.