New production firearms in Vietnam. Will they be imported?

I fail to see the point in importing those things as there is a plethora of them already on the market. Just my two cents.

As long as there are no sanctions, and there are none that I'm aware of, the firearms you mention should be subject to legal importation.

I am not interested in purchasing firearms from Communist Vietnam.

peacebutready said:

Double stack Tokarevs are not in the market in any significant numbers, AFAIK.

A Lee Enfield in LNIB goes for a lot here, if I'm not mistaken.

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Even if they are imported, it more likely that if they are indeed new, prices will reflect that. As to double stack Tokarevs, if you were to buy them, that company would be the only supplier for extra magazines. I for one have never seen any for sale around here.

No real interest in any of those, well besides the Mak, and that's minimal.
If there were other options I'd probably be more interested, but still to see if they do get imported.

DocRock said:

I am not interested in purchasing firearms from Communist Vietnam.

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Best thing I've read on the web in a longtime.

Everybody here buys stuff from Communist China all the time. The Vietnamese people like Americans unlike the Chinese. I have no issue buying guns from Vietnam if they offer something I want.

That is not a simple question to answer, and in fact, I don't know the answer.

Take a look at the regulatory system that has evolved around the import and export of "munitions" It is not straight forward, has multiple agencies involved. The State Department is in control of the import and export of Munitions. The list is the Munitions List and it is hundreds of pages. Even then the BATF is involved.

International Traffic in Arms Regulations

Arms Export Control Act

Munitions List

U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives ATF Guidebook -Importation & Verification of Firearms, Ammunition, and Implements of War

It is my opinion that modern made Lee Enfields would not qualify as antiques or collectables. That would put them in a different category than rifles built before 1948.





https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...l-arms-part-one-lee-enfields-m79s-and-bizons/

I’m going to guess that they will be allowed to be imported. But I would also guess that they may not be available for long. Demand may not be what the importers think it will be.

I might be in for a Mak, if they are able to offer a competitive price that is far below what you can find for a bulgarian version.

Slamfire said:

It is my opinion that modern made Lee Enfields would not qualify as antiques or collectables. That would put them in a different category than rifles built before 1948.

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Reproduction SMLE's? I doubt that there would be much of a market. Originals are still plentiful.

Now, if the Vietnamese wanted to compete with the Philippines in making reproduction M1911's, that might be a different story. (Provided that they could make a quality product, and undersell the Filipinos.)

MosinT53Hunter said:

I fail to see the point in importing those things as there is a plethora of them already on the market. Just my two cents.

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There's no "plethora" here.

peacebutready said:

It looks like Vietnam is making Lee Enfield rifles, Makarov pistols, and 2 different Tokarev pistols. AFAIK, we are on good terms with Vietnam. Can an importer bring those firearms here? If so, what is the chance an importer will?

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I'd think that if they can be imported someone will surely do so.

DocRock said:

As long as there are no sanctions, and there are none that I'm aware of, the firearms you mention should be subject to legal importation.

I am not interested in purchasing firearms from Communist Vietnam.

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With the number of Tok's, Mak's, SKS's, Saiga"s, Mosin's, Wolf ammo, etc. gobbled up here, communist origin doesn't seem to be a problem with American consumers.

If the price is right, I can see new Enfields having a market here, maybe more so in Canada where demand for historic British arms might be higher. As far as there being a plethora of some of the arms named as possible imports, that doesn't seem to hurt the market for reproduction M-1 Carbines, the most produced small arm in WWII.

I wouldnt mind having a cheap enfield to use for hunting. I am not taking my rebuilt enfield out in the woods. And i have not soon a makrov for years. Been wanting another. And a double stack 762x25 has my name all over it.

Just looked them up. The enfield is in 762x51. Even better for hunting and cheaper ammo.

I'd rather buy from Communist Vietnam rather than Communist China, especially with China's new dictator who is going back to Mao Tse Tung type of leadership, he's a real peach of guy. Anything that takes sales away from China and hurts their economy is ok with me.

Washington DC is either incompetent or naive, China has been waging economic war for the past 30 years against the USA with the intent to destroy the US economy and become the de facto world power. Ultimately, most wars are about economics of some kind, and China is at war with the US, IMHO, even if they won't come out and say it.

Let's drop the politics and discuss the characteristics and quality of the guns. Many guns and other items are bought from places that can be morally unacceptable to you. Computers, chicken sandwiches, jeans, oil and goose liver for example. We sell weapons to all kinds of yucky folks.

The Enfield sounds interesting. Is there a link for this info? It would appreciated.

Robbins290 said:

I wouldnt mind having a cheap enfield to use for hunting. I am not taking my rebuilt enfield out in the woods.

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That presumes that the reproduction Enfields would be "sporterized" from the factory. Having one in full military fitting wouldn't be popular for hunting.

Robbins290 said:

Just looked them up. The enfield is in 762x51.

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That sounds like the late-production Enfields from India. If the Vietnamese were able to get the tooling from India cheaply, then that would explain why they would reproduce Enfields in preference to some other design.

I would totally hunt in a full military enfield, Been looking for a cheap one that is not a sporter for the reason. All the deer i have shot has been less then 50 yards. No need for a scope.

A few years ago, an Australian company tried to get a gun company off the ground by having Enfields made in VN and offering them for distribution and eventual private sale.

It didn’t work due to unit cost, world politics, and other factors.

I bet these rifles are from the other end of the supply chain and directly linked to that failed business venture.

-Coincidentally, the oldest No. 1 Mk. 3 that I've ever had was a Vietnam war bring-back - apparently they have examples to work from... .

Robbins290 said:

All the deer i have shot has been less then 50 yards. No need for a scope.

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Yeah, like hunting hogs in the 'Glades, you can't see that far with brush and sawgrass, look through a scope and it pulls all of that into your eyeball figuratively.