Jethro1200
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Am I reading [18.2-308.8.Importation,sale,possession,etc.,of assault firearms prohibited].this passage wrong? It seems to say we may keep the magazine but won't have anything to put them in legally.
The "2nd Amendment sanctuary county" movement is symbolic. The main effect will be to deepen the rural-urban divide in Virginia. This is not good because, if it comes to that, the urban areas will outvote the rural ones every time. You have to look at where most of the people are. By hardening the divide, it makes the urban representatives even more likely to vote against you.This VA folk believes it will send a message. The 2A Sanctuary is a good, fairly easy first step since the County Supervisors in most rural counties feel as we do.
I disagree with your assessment of the situation. The urban areas have already discounted the deplorable rural dwellers as unimportant. I doubt that us rednecks have much to say that will make things any worse.The "2nd Amendment sanctuary county" movement is symbolic. The main effect will be to deepen the rural-urban divide in Virginia. This is not good because, if it comes to that, the urban areas will outvote the rural ones every time. You have to look at where most of the people are. By hardening the divide, it makes the urban representatives even more likely to vote against you.
You are partially correct. But remember, most handguns (unless they have threaded barrels, etc.) are not affected by the bill. Therefore, you can keep using your 15- or 17-round magazines with your Glock, Beretta, Sig-Sauer, etc.Am I reading [18.2-308.8.Importation,sale,possession,etc.,of assault firearms prohibited].this passage wrong? It seems to say we may keep the magazine but won't have anything to put them in legally.
I wonder about the ever present SKS with a five round internal magazine, and bayonet mount? This same passage seems to ban a bolt action rifle with a detachable magazine and a muzzle brake, which describes most dedicated long range rifles.You are partially correct. But remember, most handguns (unless they have threaded barrels, etc.) are not affected by the bill. Therefore, you can keep using your 15- or 17-round magazines with your Glock, Beretta, Sig-Sauer, etc.
You can keep using your 15- or 30-round magazines with your M1 Carbine (provided it doesn't have a bayonet lug).
And, anyone with a registered full automatic can continue to use their magazines, belts, etc. They're not proposing to amend the Virginia Uniform Machine Gun Act. Therefore, your registered full auto M16 would continue to be legal, whereas your semi AR15 would not be.
The first requirement under the bill is that the gun is semiautomatic. That means that a bolt action is not covered by the ban, regardless of features.I wonder about the ever present SKS with a five round internal magazine, and bayonet mount? This same passage seems to ban a bolt action rifle with a detachable magazine and a muzzle brake, which describes most dedicated long range rifles.
I can see that we differ on some items. I have gone armed to every General Assembly session at least once for over ten years. The only people that ever knew it were the very professional Capitol Police. Many of the various legislators are armed as well.I don't think the legislators would react well to what they perceive as "intimidation." Therefore, don't go armed.
Individual gun owners should be meeting with their legislators, well before the opening of the session. This is especially important with the newly-elected legislators, even if they're antigun. Let them know that you live in their district, and that you would be directly, and negatively, affected by whatever they pass.
As I said earlier, talk about ways the legislation can be mitigated and improved. Unlike in previous years, this thing is not going to be killed outright. Explain how you would be forced to leave the state, over the gun issue.
Under current Virginia law, no, it is NOT outlawed if you have a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP). However, as another post in this thread pointed out, changing tht law is on the first day agenda of the anti-gun crowd. When it gets passed by both Delegates adn Senate, and then signed by Governor, all need to pay attention to the date the change becomes effective, immediately, or a future specified date.Carry is already outlawed in the General Assembly building, so it would definitely be a good idea to leave any "dangerous weapons" at home.
Am I reading [18.2-308.8.Importation,sale,possession,etc.,of assault firearms prohibited].this passage wrong? It seems to say we may keep the magazine but won't have anything to put them in legally.
The way the bill is worded, you can keep the magazines you have (or can obtain between now and July 1st), but you can't get any more. Sales, transfers, and imports would be prohibited.You can keep the 11+ mags (centerfire and rimfire).
I just got a flyer in the mail from my congressman, Gerry Connolly, touting his support for the most extreme of these antigun measures. At first I thought the flyer was a parody, cooked up by some prankster working against him. But then I realized that antigun extremism is actually a selling point for him in this district.An politician that supports it in any stripe needs to be removed.
And the best thing you can do is keep writing/emailing/calling him, to remind him that not EVERYONE in his district is of the same opinion. It is obviously time for us to start being the squeaky wheel, and it IS working.But then I realized that antigun extremism is actually a selling point for him in this district.
Some voices are being raised in the gun community, saying that passage of the most draconian versions of these bills would be a good thing, since it would make the whole package more likely to be struck down by the courts. Don't count on it! Something similar was said before the Hughes Amendment (as part of FOPA) was signed by Reagan, and look where we are now. Once a law is on the books, it's very hard to get it off.
The fault is not in the politicians, but in the public that elects them.