Heard a good one today...

It's possible if the parts are surface hardened and you remove enough material you could remove the hardened layer.

In practice I seriously doubt anyone is going to remove that much material.

There is the theoretical (book) way of doing something and the way experienced people do something to get the job done better and faster.

Sometimes those ways agree with each other. Not often.

Trey Veston said:

I agree. Yes, you could remove the hardened layer with aggressive polishing. But, common sense says even if you did, how many tens of thousands of rounds do you have to shoot to actually wear out that part? And at $25 to replace it, who cares?

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I agree, I was just trying to figure out what might make even an Apprentice Machinist make the statement.

Trey Veston said:

And another gem from that same forum thread stated that polishing the connector might lead to feeding issues... And those people vote...

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Okay, I'm at a loss. Somebody else will have to come up with a theory that explains that person's thought process.

That's funny. So polishing wears out a part , I would think just the opposite . polishing reduces friction, but rubbing 2 rough metal parts together until the surfaces become smooth does not? And his primer theory shows a lot of ignorance. Some real wacky people out there...
That's why I like THR, some goofy people swing by but not very many stay around too long. Most internet forums are full of armchair commandos and basement dwelling trolls, they buy a hi-point and magically the next day they're a top expert ready to give advice all over the place.
Oh well. It was worth a laugh at least.

Trey Veston said:

I actually went through that guy's recent posts to see if maybe he had a one off brain fart. His latest post was about shooting .40 S&W through a Ruger GP100 in 10mm and having an issue with primers being pierced. His thought was because 10mm used larger diameter primers than .40 S&W, that was causing the issue.

Yeah... There is a history of nonsensical reasoning with that particular fellow.

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Okay I will admit to not being up on all the latest revolver stuff (Other than having the hots for an S&W 610 6.5" in .40/10mm) . I thought you had to have specially machined thicker moon clips to fire .40 S&W out of a GP100 10mm. It head spaces off the 10mm case mouths. I thought you generally got light strikes if you tried firing .40 out of the GP100 using standard clips.

94045 said:

Okay I will admit to not being up on all the latest revolver stuff (Other than having the hots for an S&W 610 6.5" in .40/10mm) . I thought you had to have specially machined thicker moon clips to fire .40 S&W out of a GP100 10mm. It head spaces off the 10mm case mouths. I thought you generally got light strikes if you tried firing .40 out of the GP100 using standard clips.

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As a GP100 10mm owner, yes you have to have thicker moonclips to reliably shoot .40 S&W. Without them it's about a 50/50 chance and with some ammo, way less than that. The thicker TKCustom moonclips move the .40 case back closer to the primer, and it works.

Trey Veston said:

What's the latest incredibly incorrect thing you've heard lately?

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That theres something wrong with the factory Glock triggers out of the box.

Maybe the guy was advising to not polish with a die grinder/dremel tool to the point of dramatically changing the shape and clearances of the trigger bar? (Trying to be nice)

The latest really dumb thing I heard was from a guy behind the counter at a big box sporting goods store looking at a Speer catalog. He was criticizing Gold Dots because when shot through different barriers the bullets all looked different. He showed me all the pictures and pointed to the one from bare gel and said “I would buy Gold Dots if they all looked like that!”

Soooooooo........... according to him, pretty bullets are the effective ones! I just agreed and moved to a different area ASAP.

Hartkopf said:

Maybe the guy was advising to not polish with a die grinder/dremel tool to the point of dramatically changing the shape and clearances of the trigger bar? (Trying to be nice)

The latest really dumb thing I heard was from a guy behind the counter at a big box sporting goods store looking at a Speer catalog. He was criticizing Gold Dots because when shot through different barriers the bullets all looked different. He showed me all the pictures and pointed to the one from bare gel and said “I would buy Gold Dots if they all looked like that!”

Soooooooo........... according to him, pretty bullets are the effective ones! I just agreed and moved to a different area ASAP.

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That's why I don't show at Big Box Stores except for Sportsmans Warehouse. At least in Columbia SC the associates there are fairly knowledgeable and have enough sense to go look in the warehouse if something is out of stock on the shelf. I guess the clerk you talked to would recommend full metal jacket ammo for defense since its pretty and with the round end would probably penetrate the skin better than a hollow point bullet.

For the record, I don't shop at Dicks or Field and Stream. A year or so ago, I was advised by one of my customers that the local Field and Stream had a bunch of reloading stuff on sale at 50-75% off. Since I had some time to kill between appointments, I decided to wander in and check it out. Sure enough they had a rack of closeout items marked 50-75% off. Finally found a clerk and made sure the discount was off the price marked. I got a cart and loaded up all the primers they had and all of the bullets which were mostly Hornady in .38, .44 and .45 calibers. He was helping me load the cart and made the comment that he didn't know what dummy ordered all of those bullets because they didn't sell any guns in the store in those calibers. When I questioned his statement, he said all of their black powder rifles were in 50 caliber! He though the bullets were for black powder rifles. I felt sorry for the guy as he was really trying to help and tried to explain to him that all of the reloading components were for modern guns and you basically created your own ammo. He had no clue and totally lost. He was still trying to picture loading regular firearms from the muzzle like black powder. He is the kind of clerk that would cause someone to get killed selling the wrong ammo.

To be fair, I have seen clerks at mom & pop stores who didn't know whether to crap or go blind either.

Also seen ones at big box stores who really knew their stuff.

Leads me to believe maybe it's the clerk and not the store.

Yes, polish something to make it smooth and work with less friction will always wear it out faster. Any fool knows that.

It's a good thing that a person with an I.Q. above 100 is not a fool.

AK103K said:

That theres something wrong with the factory Glock triggers out of the box.

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Most 1911 Shooters will agree with that.

94045 said:

Most 1911 Shooters will agree with that.

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Ah, you mean the biggest trigger whiners of them all?

Ill cut you in on a secret when it comes to triggers. Learn to shoot a DA revolver, DAO, and you can shoot pretty much any box stock factory trigger out there, and basically anything you pick up, without any troubles.

Youll save a boatload of money on "crutches", and youll be a better shooter in the long run to boot!

AK103K said:

Ah, you mean the biggest trigger whiners of them all?

Ill cut you in on a secret when it comes to triggers. Learn to shoot a DA revolver, DAO, and you can shoot pretty much any box stock factory trigger out there, and basically anything you pick up, without any troubles.

Youll save a boatload of money on "crutches", and youll be a better shooter in the long run to boot!

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Been shooting a S&W M10 for 40+ years, DW M15 for 30+Years and SW9VE Sigma for 20 years. I think I'm starting to get a hand on heavy triggers. I had very little issue with my J-Frame M60 when I bought it but I love handing it to my Glock-Gen acquaintances to watch them miss the whole freakin' silhouette.

PS Most of the Generation that complain about the Glock trigger are likely to own two handguns if they own any. A 1911 and a K-Frame so they are familiar with the DOA. I think they just didn't care for the squishy Glock (Especially Gen 1 and Gen 2) trigger feel.

On the internet, you can be whatever you want to be.

AK103K said:

Ah, you mean the biggest trigger whiners of them all?

Ill cut you in on a secret when it comes to triggers. Learn to shoot a DA revolver, DAO, and you can shoot pretty much any box stock factory trigger out there, and basically anything you pick up, without any troubles.

Youll save a boatload of money on "crutches", and youll be a better shooter in the long run to boot!

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That's why I bought and have kept my SIG P250.

That DAO trigger is the best training tool for me!

94045 said:

Been shooting a S&W M10 for 40+ years, DW M15 for 30+Years and SW9VE Sigma for 20 years. I think I'm starting to get a hand on heavy triggers. I had very little issue with my J-Frame M60 when I bought it but I love handing it to my Glock-Gen acquaintances to watch them miss the whole freakin' silhouette.

PS Most of the Generation that complain about the Glock trigger are likely to own two handguns if they own any. A 1911 and a K-Frame so they are familiar with the DOA. I think they just didn't care for the squishy Glock (Especially Gen 1 and Gen 2) trigger feel.

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I never really noticed the Glock triggers were "mushy", and I own, or have owned, Gen 1 through 5.

Then again, contrary to the opinion of most American shooters, I always thought the HK 90 series rifle triggers werent bad at all either.

Trey Veston said:

I've heard of Glocks going close to 100k rounds

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My Gen2 Glock 17 went 120,000+ rounds and I sold it to another match shooter because I was concerned about barrel rifling wear. Well, another match shooter bought it and after checking for accuracy, he said accuracy was fine and kept shooting USPSA matches with it (Tennifer surface hardening of barrel and slide makes for one hard surface to wear).

As to trigger wear? AFAIK, trigger was smooth and operated normally.

Trey Veston said:

He then advised the owner to shoot about 800 rounds through it instead.

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Or dry fire 800 times instead while watching the front sight to improve your trigger control/grip ... much cheaper.

I tell people to dry fire pistols at the gun store (with approval) prior to buying while watching the front sight. I figure, pistols that jerks/moves the front sight less when the striker is released out of the box will have smoother trigger as the pistol is broken in and will be more accurate.

Before I bought my last Glock (Gen3 Glock 23), I went through several models before I found one that did not jerk/move the front sight. When the store staff got curious what I was looking for, I showed him the front sight movement and he was shocked how much other pistols jerked/moved the front sight.

JeeperCreeper said:

That's why I bought and have kept my SIG P250.

That DAO trigger is the best training tool for me!

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The P250 has a very nice DAO trigger, and very much like a revolver. I also had a P245 with a factory DAO trigger (not DAK) that was very nice as well. Most people I let shoot either, didnt seem to like them though.

Most who shot my other, more traditional P series SIG's, usually didnt decock them when they loaded them, and shot them SA, or they would thumb cock them first if I handed them one that had been decocked.