Incredible Results New Nosler Liberty

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Steve S. said:
As a rifle shooting guy for many decades, my mind asks the question of what happens/ what changes for the second 50 yards of the round’s trajectory to open up like that - I have never experienced that kind of accuracy change from 50 to 100 yards - very strange stuff.
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The first pic is not 3 holes. It is one of the three holes. I took a close up so that you could see the bullet is flying through sideways.
 
Skylerbone said:
That’s frustrating for sure at any price. I spent a few minutes on a RAR this week sorting out action, trigger, and accuracy issues. Wouldn’t feed, would double feed, wouldn’t chamber, 7+ lbs. trigger pull, and shotgun effect. Today it was punching near MOA from 50-200 yards.

While I too have yet to see a Liberty in the wild I love all things Nosler I have come in contact with so I’m sure they’ll straighten things out. I can empathize none the less that for the price it did not ship that way to begin with.
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Conceptually, Ruger is my favorite gun maker. I have written them off though. I have had my fill of their crap QC. I have had to send 3 back, have had to work on several more to get them to function as designed and am living with issues on several more. I am on the verge of swearing off all US gun manufacturers.
 
Once upon a time, in a previous life before handloading, I inadvertently fired some .243 Win. in a .308 Win. chambered rifle. The results were similar to the OP except I had 8" keyhole groups at 50 yards and 2 of 5 holes in a 24x36 white sheet of paper (backside of an architectural drawing) at 100 yards. :oops:
I felt just a little sheepish when I saw what I had done....:eek: :notworthy: :uhoh:
 
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Nature Boy said:
It keyholed at 50 yards but didn't at 100? That's a head scratcher.
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I've seen something like that in my past, shooting 40gr varmint 223 loads through a 1:7" twist bolt gun. The occasional jacket separation would cause keyholing of the lead core, and those that didn't separate showed very poor accuracy.
 
Nature Boy said:
It keyholed at 50 yards but didn't at 100? That's a head scratcher.

If it was mine I'd sure like to have some idea of what's wrong with it before I sent it back, just as a check and balance against what Nosler might say. Maybe have a gunsmith diagnose it first.
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If we're taking bets!
My guess is a slightly lopsided, or out of spec crown.
 
Now if a fella had a bore scope you could diagnose a problem but until then I’d just be guessing.
Please report back when they figure it out.
Standing bye
J
 
illinoisburt said:
Given that the two cartridges have the same brass dimensionally except for the neck down for the 6, I would measure the bore diameter with a micrometer. Or a really easy thing would be to take a piece of fired brass and check to see how an unfired case bullet slides into fired opening.
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Or take a loaded round and insert it at the crown. If it gets to the brass, wrong bore.
 
Since we’re goofin, I think it’s a bad batch of bullets with off-center cores. :neener: Still a bit thunderstruck that Nosler may be at fault. I know everyone has a defect rate but shouldn’t this have included a test target?
 
illinoisburt said:
Might come to find it's a mismark and barrel is actually cut for 6.5
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I like this theory, little 6mm bullets just whiffle balling down range. Out of spec, 10 twist rate might be a bit more probable. I'd be curious to scope the bore, just to see what the rifling looks like.

It looks like you've got an oblong hole in the upper left of the 100 yd target as well as the 50 yd. Definitely a stabilization problem of some variety.
 
Gtscotty said:
I like this theory, little 6mm bullets just whiffle balling down range. Out of spec, 10 twist rate might be a bit more probable
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Thats a good guess, It would account for partial stabilization, and it would be easy enough to get a 1-10 barrel by accident since the .243 is twisted that way. Maybe check that?
Honestly it shouldnt have surprised me, but it did seeing two different twist rates for the .243 and the 6 creed
 
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