Incredible Results New Nosler Liberty

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dranrab said:
The rifle feels absolutely perfect in hand. While the shape of the trigger is a bit weird, it breaks just right. I bought one box of 105 grain factory ammo. The bolt is really hard to close on it. I am anxious to see what Nosler finds when they get it back. The oblongation of the target impact tells me that it's not stabilizing the bullets. I am wondering if they gave it a 243 twist.

What scope is that? A VX5-HD? If I can get the results I want out of this rifle, I am going to treat it to a VX5. I am thinking about going with the firedot.
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Have you tried another factory ammo besides Nosler?

I've had that problem with Nosler ammo in the past in rifles that functioned perfectly fine with other ammo. I've had it happen with Nosler and Hornady Superformance. Buddy of mine had a 7 STW that wouldn't chamber Nosler ammo without beating the bolt closed.

But either way I'd be sending the rifle in anyway. Sorry for your luck, those really are some sweet rifles.

I was thinking along the lines of LoonWolf when I initially liked your first post. If you were happy I wasn't gonna rain on your parade
 
CptnAwesome said:
Have you tried another factory ammo besides Nosler?

I've had that problem with Nosler ammo in the past in rifles that functioned perfectly fine with other ammo. I've had it happen with Nosler and Hornady Superformance. Buddy of mine had a 7 STW that wouldn't chamber Nosler ammo without beating the bolt closed.

But either way I'd be sending the rifle in anyway. Sorry for your luck, those really are some sweet rifles.

I was thinking along the lines of LoonWolf when I initially liked your first post. If you were happy I wasn't gonna rain on your parade
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I have only tried Nosler. Were it not for the keyholing, I would have tried something else.
 
May sound simple, but have you checked to make sure the correct ammo is in the box? Reason I ask is I used to work part time at the LGS. We would have guys that wanted to look at cartridges to compare them before buying a rifle. It would be easy to get switched and get the wrong ammo in the wrong box.

While anything is possible, I find it astounding that a factory rifle could shoot that badly.

Make sure to let us know the results
 
Hard to believe the rifle left the factory without testing. Or perhaps without checking the target, if it was "tested".
 
redneck2 said:
May sound simple, but have you checked to make sure the correct ammo is in the box? Reason I ask is I used to work part time at the LGS. We would have guys that wanted to look at cartridges to compare them before buying a rifle. It would be easy to get switched and get the wrong ammo in the wrong box.

While anything is possible, I find it astounding that a factory rifle could shoot that badly.

Make sure to let us know the results
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I always look at the head stamp. The ammo was 6 Creed. The chamber is close to 6 Creed. The barrel is rifled. The crown looks fine. To this lay person's eyes it looks fine. That's why I can only suspect the wrong twist. Nosler uses a 10 twist on their 243. That wouldn't stabilize their 105gr bullet.

I am anxious to get it back with the bugs worked out. The rifle feels great. I know a 6 Creed isn't a heavy recoiling rifle, but the design really soaks up what little recoil there is to begin with. It feels perfect in my hands.
 
Any way to grab a box of alternate ammo locally? About 10 years ago my father owned a pair of 300 Win Mags, a T/C and a Savage, both purchased new. He was adamant about using SuperFormance but did buy several other brands to put both rifles on paper first.

After zeroing with Federal, he proceeded to burn through box after box of the Hornady with 10” groups from both rifles. He took both to the smith and it was not until a case separation that ammo was determined to be the culprit. When in doubt, and I understand the irony, buy a box of CoreLoct and see if it manages a 2” group.


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dranrab said:
To this lay person's eyes it looks fine
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Something that would cause a rifle to keyhole at 50 yards would jump right out to a gunsmith with a cursory inspection. I know it's an extra step, but I'll reiterate my suggestion to take it to a local gunsmith to get a diagnosis before sending it in. There's been more than one anecdotal story of customers sending their defective rifle back to a manufacturer only to get a response back that, "everything looks fine, the rifle meets our specs".

To quote Ronaldus Maximus, "trust, but verify".
 
dranrab said:
It's definitely a 6mm bore
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Did you measure it? Even with my readers I doubt I could eyeball 1/2 mm differences. I suspect a 6mm bullet might touch the lands in a 6.5mm barrel, however it would not make it to the grooves so I dont think trying to slip one in the muzzle would be a good test. A spent case might be easier to measure if the inside diameter of the neck is much more than 6mm.

Twist is super easy to measure with a cleaning rod, patch, marker, and a ruler to read the results.
 
illinoisburt said:
Did you measure it? Even with my readers I doubt I could eyeball 1/2 mm differences. I suspect a 6mm bullet might touch the lands in a 6.5mm barrel, however it would not make it to the grooves so I dont think trying to slip one in the muzzle would be a good test. A spent case might be easier to measure if the inside diameter of the neck is much more than 6mm.

Twist is super easy to measure with a cleaning rod, patch, marker, and a ruler to read the results.
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It would be ironic to have a 7mm bore with a 6.5 mm CM! I can almost hear the bullet rattle down the barrel.....:what:

ETA: Hey! It could happen!! :eek: :scrutiny: :scrutiny:
 
Chuck R. said:
I've got one in .270W that I got on new on Gunbroker for $950, I guess no one wanted the antique caliber :D.

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It's a pretty solid rifle and has replaced my Steyr MOD M Professional, it's accurate, reasonably lightweight, with a decent trigger.

I set it up to be my open country whitetail/mulie rig. With a Leupold VX6HD 2-12x42 with CDS and FireDot BDC, LW Talley rings and VTAC LW sling in weighs in at 8lbs. I get 3180FPS out of the 24" barrel with 130 Nosler ABs and H4831SC and it will consistently hold 3 in about 3/4MOA and 5 in just about 1 MOA.

The 24" barrel's pretty thin, somewhere between a sporter and light sporter profile, so it heats up pretty quick. I've taken the combination out to 545yds on steel and it remains well within "minute of deer".

A friend of mine has two of them; one in .270WSM and .300WSM, both shoot very well.
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What is the pedigree of the m48 and what was Nosler trying to achieve with it (other than make money). Does the rifle live up to their goals?
 
Nature Boy said:
I was more interested in the section on the barrel.

“Nosler rifles are fitted with premium, hand-lapped, match grade barrels. These barrels are button rifled and held to extremely tight tolerances for unrivaled accuracy.”

Maybe the guy who was doing the lapping was new, having a bad day or just got a little over zealous and wollered it out.
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From what I've read, the Liberty/Patriot barrels were produced by Pacnor at one time. Maybe their fire that occurred last year had an effect on which barrel maker they used.
 
I took it to UPS today. On a positive note my Christensen Arms Mesa is on the way back to me now. When I called them to report the problem, they knew they had some weak ejector plunger springs. They got a bad batch. I suspect that's all that was wrong. In the little shooting I did with it, I managed a .6 inch 3 shot group.
 
jmr40 said:
Talk about bad luck. There are lots of $350 rifles out there better than that.
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**** I get about that with my Mosin at 100 and she’s 120 years old, cost me all of $250 after some sporterization.
 
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