Man’ if that’s a 760 game master I’m jealous cause I’ve had a set in 270 and 3006 , excellent rifles indeedNot perfect.
Close enough
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It wears a 2-7x now and with it at 7x was getting 1 inch groups @ 100 yds. Bone stock trigger too.
.35 rem w Hornady factory ammo.
Its a great little rifle.
The antonym of perfect is imperfect, so I suppose by definition that becomes a very large catch-all for everything from horrendous to excellent.
The Winchester M70 EW has been mentioned a number of times in this thread. I had two of them around 2012/2013 that were pre-Portugal production One was chambered in .308 Win, the other in .300 WM. Both were heavy, neither was particularly accurate, and the machining of the receivers (bolt raceways) was among the worst I've seen, with the worst of the worst honor going to a Savage Weather Warrior. I sold both M70s at a slight profit but really wanted to like them. I lost a few hundred on the Savage.
Similar to mine, which is a Pre '64 Mod 70 FW in 30-06. I never found anything better for me.Pre 64 Winchester Model 70 Featherweight chambered in .270 WinchesterView attachment 956708
You stinker, a closet intellectual.The following sounds pompous even to me, but I've thought the question over and it's my honest opinion.
Perfection is the enemy of good enough. Some people think Stalin coined the phrase, but Voltaire is an earlier candidate and the basic idea goes all the way back to ancient Greece and the Golden Mean. I suppose the the pursuit of perfection is an OK thing, as long as the process remains fun and doesn't become burdensome or obscure your goal. Which is presumably a more satisfying and successful hunt. For myself, I would be as satisfied with any suitable rifle as with the absolute perfect one, if the end result was the same.
The search for a rifle suited to task should start with a list of must-have characteristics: chambering, accuracy, weight, fit, reliability, etc. Eliminate rifles that don't qualify and see which of the remaining speaks to you, functionally and aesthetically. Take it for an extended test drive and see if it lives up to your needs. If so, learn to live with it; if not, try again. If everyone did something like this when courting a life partner, the divorce rate would plummet.
Since I'm no longer able to hunt at present, the preceding is academic and my rifle purchases are more about history and aesthetics than perfection. FWIW, I'll add that I like Mauser 98-based actions, including the 1903, M70, Kimber 84, etc.
You stinker, a closet intellectual.
At work we call it simply; "Perfection is the enemy of good enough".
BTW, the new Terry Weiland book contains much useful information applicable to this quest:
Great Hunting Rifles: Victorian to the Present
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Hehehe, that's where my thinking is.....Time, energy, money, and luck.....get enough of any one of those and its not too bad a project, but the total investment is still gonna be far from average.The question really is, how much are you willing to pay for perfection. Not just talking about money here. I guarantee the cost will be too high.
redneck2 said:When no one has mentioned (that I saw anyway) is “perfect for what?”
The perfect rifle for elk in heavy timber versus eastern white tails may vary from the perfect flat plains antelope rifle.
Yes, you are correct, the cartridge is 30 Remington AR. I am a big fan of the 450 Bushmaster and hunted the previous three years with it. The 30 Remington AR is derived from the same parent case, 284 Winchester, as the 450 Bushmaster. 30 Remington AR runs higher pressure (55ksi vs 38.5ksi) than 450 Bushmaster.@mcb, can you provide more details on what you show in your post such as the magazine on the left, and the cartridge? The cartridge looks like .30 Remington AR.
No not perfect, but I have a few that are close.I've been watching these guys on YouTube that have a channel called Backfire. Their videos are entertaining but they are certainly not rifle experts, not even close, but maybe that's the point. Anyway, this got me thinking about the "perfect" factory hunting rifle ... at any price!
Obviously this isn't an objective topic since we all have different expectations and requirements, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone has found their unicorn ... I certainly haven't. By "perfect" I mean a hunting rifle that checks every box for you, is ideal in every way, and requires zero upgrades or changes.
To get the ball rolling I'll mention the Tikka T3x family. Tikka gets a lot right with a locking bolt handle but the .30 cal offerings have a 1:11 twist ... yuk! Tikka offers short action cartridges in a one size fits all receiver which isn't good. The magazines work/feed well in the rifle, and the actions are among the smoothest, but the magazine catch/release is crap being way too small and not even vaguely positive. Even aftermarket catches such as the one included with expensive RMT bottom metal is crap. Extraction is garbage when pulling the bolt to the rear slowly (annoying for practice sessions or load development) resulting in the spent case wallowing around inside the action, and the non-tactical models don't have an adjustable comb height. Additionally, QD cups aren't offered or necessarily easy to install on the side of the stock. Standard sling swivel studs need to go away for various reasons. So as good at Tikka rifles are, they're not perfect. Just my opinion of course.
Don't get me started on Kimber ... and I used to work for them!!!
How much that set you back?Closest thing that I have is my new Mauser M18 in 6.5 CM. For a cheaper rifle it has a lot going for it. I stuck a 3-9X Leupold VXII on it in Leupold mounts. The bolt runs smooth and has a 60 degree lift. The synthetic stock fits me well and is decent. Kind of between a Bergara and the Tupperware on a Savage Axis. The trigger is excellent. It has a detachable plastic magazine that is well designed and feeds well. I am sure that there are others that might fit the criteria better, but this one works for me. The fact that it shoots sub-MOA is only a bonus.
Euros got them starting at 425ish right now, they sometimes have them as low as 399.How much that set you back?
Which H&S stock?No not perfect, but I have a few that are close.
And not trying to get anyones goat, but one of my favorites is a Kimber.
My Weatherby Mark V has a 26" barrel and is not the smoothest action ever, and is just a half pound heavy. But it is very nice.
Perfect for me would include:
A synthetic HS style stock, properly glass bed.
24" Weatherby or Rem sporter contour.
Creep free 2.5 lb trigger.
holds 4 or 5 rounds total
13.5" LOP with a 1" pad included.
MV 3150 fps.
Sling swivel studs properly installed, not touching the barrel.
Made in the USA.
Cerakote grey or matte stainless.
Reliable steel magazine.
I am not picky on safeties
I'm not going to 'Do it over' at my tender age near the mid-seventies. My hunting days are waning and I'll make do with the two .270s and .243 Win rifles I own. They'll get it done easily, should I desire to hunt deer. Meanwhile, other rifles do a great job on varmints, including eastern coyotes. My favorite walk-about varmint rifles are in .223 Rem and .243 Win. The .243s are fantastic for longer shots on running coyotes, who tend to run straight-away across the fields...BIG mistake so far! (Got two that way...at about 150 yards.)I own 2 Rem 700 BDL Stainless in .270 and love them, but also have a Tikka T3 in .243 Win and really love its features more. If I were to do it over, I'd get a T3 in 7mm-08, a cartridge that works great for deer and loves the Tikka.