CZ is Purchasing Colt

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golden said:
By including a certain amount of U.S. parts
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Yeah and that parts (as far i know) are manufactured by CZ owned company, but its already at its maximum capacity + our local production is slightly diffrent since we have just "short guns" and "long guns" which is based on overall lenght and type of stock/brace doesnt matter. That caused some problems with Bren 2 (some versions) which had US required and made stcok/bracer. MAC showed it in one of his videos
So it makes sence that CZ wants to make that parts in factory what is able to make complete guns from muzzle device to stock
 
Its a deal. In todays czech news there is info about purchasing colt by CZ is done and now its waiting for approval from regulation institutions.
CZ bought Colt with 100% stocks for 220 USD. This includes even factories in Canada which suppli Canadian Army

CEO of CZG (Česká Zbrojovka Group) said that this step is part of theirs strategy how to became world leader in gun manufatoring and main amry/police supplier. Ha also said " we are proud that we added in our portfolio such a big names as Colt, who is parner of US Army for 175 years.

Colt CEO said this is important move and oppurtunity to grow (of Colt).

So as I said earlier - by my opinion is CZ aiming at factory resources and ways into army contracts and Colt will remain somehow independent in their production as long as it will wolrks + there will be some exchange of know how and so.
 
Along the same line, some friends and I discussed decades
ago that perhaps Glock could buy Colt. This seemed to make
some sense since virtually no Colt products were competing
with Glock products. A chance existed for better production
of Colt revolvers including the SAA.
 
UncleEd said:
Along the same line, some friends and I discussed decades
ago that perhaps Glock could buy Colt. This seemed to make
some sense since virtually no Colt products were competing
with Glock products. A chance existed for better production
of Colt revolvers including the SAA.
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To me the manufacturing philosophy's would have been too different. The things that make the Glock model work so well cannot be applied to 1911s and other guns Colt manufacturers without destroying the product IMHO.
 
1KPerDay said:
So they allow heavier guns... does that mean you can't use your existing Shadow 2?
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yep! before, you had to send it out to-get the slide lighten and optic cut, and plastic rod.... now, CZ makes it optic ready!
 
tarosean said:
Yep read this earlier..

I just hope they clean house in Colts R&D department and breath in some fresh ideas.
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It's more than just the R&D dept, it's all those clowns that held management titles.
IMO, CZ needs to expand that up and coming plant in Arkansas and move Colt out of CT.
 
CZ's been pretty responsive to the consumer market, and their quality of manufacturing has been outstanding. I was blown away by my 527.

Can't say I know everything about CZ, but they have done right by US gun owners AFAIK and are much more preferable owners than some hedge fund.
 
tarosean said:
I just hope they clean house in Colts R&D department and breath in some fresh ideas.
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So what's that look like to you?

What does Colt need to be making now that it's not already making? (besides a new Anaconda, a new DS and maybe a WWII-era 1911A1 replica, complete with parkerization, plastic grips and old-style rollmarks? Oh, and re-start production of the USMC-45, please.)
 
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Old Dog said:
So what's that look like to you?

What does Colt need to be making now that it's not already making? (besides a new Anaconda, a new DS and maybe a WWII-era 1911A1 replica, complete with parkerization, plastic grips and old-style rollmarks? Oh, and re-start production of the USMC-45, please.)
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They have failed at every pistol Military contract they have attempted since they 80's. FN took the lions share of the rifle contract. Etc etc.

I dont particularly want to see Colt branded plastic fantastic.
 
tarosean said:
They have failed at every pistol Military contract they have attempted since they 80's.
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Even if one believes this, recent history below indicates "failure?"

In 2018, Colt won a $57 million contract to supply M4 carbines to Jordan, Morocco, Afghanistan, Senegal, Tunisia and Pakistan. That contract also came under DoD’s foreign military sales program.

September 20, 2019 The Colt Manufacturing Company was awarded a $41,924,594 firm-fixed-price foreign military sales contract to produce M4 and M4A1 carbines for 13 countries, the Department of Defense announced Thursday, September 19, the same day the company announced it would temporarily stop producing civilian AR-15 semi-automatic rifles.

May 1, 2020 The Department of Defense (DoD) awarded a joint contract to Colt’s Manufacturing and FN America on April 29 to provide M16A4 rifles for foreign military sales to Afghanistan, Grenada, Iraq, Lebanon and Nepal. Estimated completion date is April 28, 2025, and the contract carries a total value of $383,311,941.

And Colt has returned with vigor to the civilian market with a plethora of worthy 1911 offerings and the new Cobras, King Cobras and Pythons.

Doubtful Colt will turn to plastic. Just my opinion, but seems the company had already righted itself and has been on a good track the past three or four years...
 
If CZ moves the Colt plant to Arkansas I wouldn't be in any rush to buy one what with the "new" employees running the machines.
With the new ownership does that mean the Colt revolvers will be valued in tiers---
1---Original Python 2---Current wannabe Python 3---CZ Python
1---Original Cobra 2---Current King Cobra (ugh) 3---CZ King Cobra
 
if means they stay afloat and continue to make the new Pythons and Cobras, well, that can only be a good thing.
 
Idahou said:
Since im from Czech i may have a diffrent look into that and its kinda simply - CZ need more factory capacity because US laws requres firearms to be at least from part manufactured in US nad colt needs funding. Thats kinda all and everything else is just bonus. CZ isnt exactly interested in AR market, but its better to have such a foothold and already working sites, than expanding currect base
So i expect that it actually will have just little effect on Colts and CZ market offerings, most likely colt will be colt but part of its resources will be used by CZ. But if colts fails to make profit, CZ will probably take over and then influence colts production.
Thats kinda czech way
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I like the Czech way - only other country I would consider moving to if the US went under. Been a CZ-UB/CZ-USA fan for 20+ years now.
 
I surely hope good things come from it. Been wanting a gold cup in .45 or 9mm forever now and one of those new classic 1911s in .38 Super for a carry gun. I don't know if they will get into poly pistols, I think they should stick with the classics for now.
 
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armoredman said:
I like the Czech way - only other country I would consider moving to if the US went under.
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Well, i actually considering moving out because last year i really lost my faith in gov and people here. Gun laws are strict, but reassonable and biggest restriction is market itself (because prices adn so)

Anyway from my point of view i really cant see why would be CZ changing colts production or location. Ofc i dont know much about US market or situation, but im sure Colt will hold its angle and if there will be some interference from CZ, it will aim at marketing, representations and so. Mayabe there will be some budget/entry level colt guns but im sure colt remains same and that will change only if colt itself will fail to make profit for longer period of time.

Time will tell, but you dont buy something like Colt to change it from the ground
 
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