The local public range is a mess.

Trigger Trash are the bane of every respectful and responsible gun owner nationwide.

Sadly, as bad as that looks it pales in comparison to the acres of glass bottle bits, shot up TVs, twisted pieces of metal and oddball trash people bring out, shoot up, then leave scattered across public shooting areas out here in the deserts. It’s so embarrassing to bring a new shooter out there to view such a mess that I rarely do anymore.

Stay safe.

That looks pretty good next to what I typically see. Old washers, TVs, piles of garbage, batteries, tires, glass, etc.

Littering should be a capital crime IMO. If you’re that inconsiderate you shouldn’t be allowed free air.

Its called a lack of respect. For the country,for others,for themselves. Look around. It's running rampant in our world today!

Because of this the folks i know don't even bring targets anymore. There's so much already out there there's no need to bring our own stuff. Just reuse what's already been littered.

A couple of 50 gallon drums marked “Trash”, provided and emptied by the state employees assigned to the nearby areas might help. Contact your conservation department and let us know how they react. Not every shooter takes a trash bag with them when they go shooting like I was taught, more’s the pity.

What a shame. We had some similar shooting locations on state land locally until the pigs came out and used the the range to dump their garbage.
The same people that refuse to pay to shoot at an organized range are the ones that are first to whine about a place to shoot. There are times I'm ashamed of what I see fellow shooters because many people lump all of us together.

Riomouse911 said:

Trigger Trash are the bane of every respectful and responsible gun owner nationwide.

Sadly, as bad as that looks it pales in comparison to the acres of glass bottle bits, shot up TVs, twisted pieces of metal and oddball trash people bring out, shoot up, then leave scattered across public shooting areas out here in the deserts. It’s so embarrassing to bring a new shooter out there to view such a mess that I rarely do anymore.

Stay safe.

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They used to bring those nasty things to a public range in Carson City and you would see the sparkle all over the ground form tvs, bottles, etc. The local boy scouts would do a clean-up day a few times a year for merit badge stuff.

I'm glad I'm at a private club range. In my area even the public ranges are well kept but there are a few open places people shoot & most turn into dumping places then get shut down to any activity just because of the trash.

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Nobody likes these guys and the anti-gunners use it as a reason to try to get this place shut down.

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Makes sense to me, city folks are much more civilized...



Best way to make people keep a place clean is for them to own it or not invited back.

This is why I am happy to pay for a private range with strict rules. Taken at the 100 & 200 yard lines. Likely early spring or late fall since the trees lack foliage.


No nonsense, well groomed and strict rules. Do a magazine dump and you are gone as quick as the magazine dump.

My best advice is try and organize some local shooters who respect the range and host a working party and clean it up. Then signs to encourage others to maintain it nice. Hell where I live in the Cleveland, Ohio suburbs our wind is normally out of the west and the past few years I am policing my lawn cleaning up garbage that blows in. Wife grew up in our home from 12 to present 72. Only the last 4 years or so are things going south. Problem is at our age there is no sense in moving.

George P said:

The local boy scouts would do a clean-up day a few times a year for merit badge stuff.

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I like that as it teaches civic responsibility.

1KPerDay said:

That looks pretty good next to what I typically see. Old washers, TVs, piles of garbage, batteries, tires, glass, etc.

Littering should be a capital crime IMO. If you’re that inconsiderate you shouldn’t be allowed free air.

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I figure execute the bastards. After we kill of a few the remainder will fall into place.

Ron

George P said:

They used to bring those nasty things to a public range in Carson City and you would see the sparkle all over the ground form tvs, bottles, etc. The local boy scouts would do a clean-up day a few times a year for merit badge stuff.

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Yep. My eagle project was cleaning up a shooting range. Looked just as crappy a couple of weeks after I cleaned it.

Quote “trash barrels”...

The barrels are a huge NO NO!
They will soon be relegated to target status!

I in the past would frequent the state WMA range just to catch people doing such.
They were usually quite indignant at being cited for criminal trespass on a state WMA for damaging property and committing numerous range safety rules.

For some reason, there is the attitude that ranges are tantamount to garbage dumps and anything goes! Like blasting the range distance markers, signs, and shooting out windows of the check station.
One night I drove by and found the first bench and overhead cover on fire!
Two charges of arson were the outcome...

Cost of using the range was to sign in...
Now there is a 10’ chain link fence and full time attendant. Range is structured for bench shooting only. No free style standing, kneeling, or prone is permitted. No more than 1-shot per two seconds (rule is one second, but RO interpretation is essentially 1-per 2 seconds.) No practice for NRA Bullseye or PPC style shooting, despite I still represent the Department in L.E. competition.
I don’t shoot there anymore.
I’ve got my own range in my backyard...

J-Bar said:

A couple of 50 gallon drums marked “Trash”, provided and emptied by the state employees assigned to the nearby areas might help. Contact your conservation department and let us know how they react. Not every shooter takes a trash bag with them when they go shooting like I was taught, more’s the pity.

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Guaranteed those 50 gallon drums would be shot to pieces in a week. Morons will be morons.

Tucson has three public ranges run by the county, very clean and they recycle the brass. That does not stop wildcat ranges though. The state or feds had to close one down due to lead entering the streams and water table. If it ain't trash it'll be lead contamination.

It’s pretty typical sad to say. We had a local range on state ground where I grew up that was just a sand bank people used for generations. It looked like a dump. Then after the area around started seeing houses being built people started complaining about the noise and trash and it looked like it might be shut down. Then low and behold they found a grant that paid to have it developed into an actual range with graded berms, covered shooting benches that you shoot through baffles in the building for noise abatement. I think it’s kind of dangerous as it creates blind spots and there is no range officer present. But it is nice. But believe it or not slobs still leave their trash there and shoot the building up. I don’t live there anymore so I don’t know if it’s gotten better but I expect it’s not. They will loose it one day I’m sure.

More than a decade ago used to work for the agency in charge of landfills and such in CA We found that when fees went up (beyond a couple bucks) folks immediately started dumping everywhere including the road to the landfill and in front of its gates. Via hidden cameras we would watch as one person would dump next to road others would follow till mountains of garbage appeared overnight. Scavengers, animals and the wind would scatter everything making cleanup almost impossible. Despite clear license plates pics the county said it would be too expensive to prosecute dumpers as many were illegals, They also admitted the dump fees did NOT cover the cost of illegal dumping.

Fast forward to today dump fees are outrageous so the home collection fees are way up as are special property taxes on homeowners. There is often more trash outside locked dumpsters than inside and drivers spend more tax dollars picking it up than dumping the dumpsters with multimillion dollar equipment. And then there's the "sacred" homeless who use the streets and rivers as their personal toilet and get paid to do so. Any open area like a range gets the double whammy of careless shooters and illegal dumpers. Real contagious Disease (not fauxvid bs) including cholera, typhoid and others is now inevitable.

1KPerDay said:

Guaranteed those 50 gallon drums would be shot to pieces in a week. Morons will be morons.

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No doubt, if they are foolishly placed downrange, but if the trash cans are back on the firing line, maybe...

There is a USFS public shooting area not far from my house. The garbage left behind by the shooters is horrific. I call them "Bangers". They buy a gun on Saturday and load up the car with family, old toilet, ammo, beer and head to the shooting spot on Sunday. They shoot up half their ammo at the toilet and call themselves proficient gun handlers. They shoot in a 360 degree pattern oblivious to other shooter shooting the other way. They leave the toilet for someone else to clean up and head home.

There were no trash receptacles of any kind on an unsupervised range I went to. It's a nice range and not a trash dump, but a lot of brass everywhere and shot up paper targets. There was a donation box and I put $20.00 in with a note that buying a couple of garbage cans would help. When I went back there a month later there were trash can's, brooms, and empty brass receptacles! The range was MUCH cleaner. It helps to speak up.

J-Bar said:

A couple of 50 gallon drums marked “Trash”, provided and emptied by the state employees assigned to the nearby areas might help. Contact your conservation department and let us know how they react. Not every shooter takes a trash bag with them when they go shooting like I was taught, more’s the pity.

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I was a member of a private but unsupervised outdoor range. Locked gate, access by key card, members and one guest only. Bermed ranges, long range rifle house, and other amenities. With permission from above, I found several large wooden cable spools and delivered them to the range so folks would have a place off the ground to put firearms, range bags, etc. Within a few weeks, they were shot to uselessness. I suspect the same thing would happen to trash barrels.

As my wife is fond of say, "People Suck!"

George P said:

They used to bring those nasty things to a public range in Carson City and you would see the sparkle all over the ground form tvs, bottles, etc. The local boy scouts would do a clean-up day a few times a year for merit badge stuff.

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If that’s the one near the Carson out past the V&T railroad depot and city dump, I’ve shot at that range back in the late 1980’s. For an open, public range it was very nice. Too bad inconsiderate people take it upon themselves to trash places like that .

Stay safe.

Well, here's some after pictures of the range with a little input from me.

I harvest the brass and I might pickup some trash at the one I go to.