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I am shopping for a higher end .22 rifle (very nice wood, trigger, fit/ finish, accuracy, etc). I have located a custom stocked Anschutz at Canyon Creek (beautiful rifle) and a Cooper at JD Outfitters (another beautiful rifle). My consternation is the prices being north and way north of $7k causes me to pause. I have also viewed several Cooper (57-M) rifles in the $3 to $4k range that seem like nice rifles but the wood looks very ho-hum.
I presently own a Kimber 82 Yonkers (K-22) that I am trying to sell; the more I shop for a higher end .22, the more I realize that the Kimber (at a much lesser cost/ value) brings a whole lot to the table - in turn, maybe I should just keep it and that’s that.
My question to those that know is if I am missing other higher end brand offered .22’s that I should be looking at. Again, I am looking at all options - it seems that what I am wanting does exist but at an extremely higher price (at least in this market). Any direction would be appreciated.
 
If the Kimber shoots well for you and you know what ammo it likes, then I would keep it (even if I bought the other one) at least till I knew the other one shot as well or better than it.

It it tough and $$ now to figure out what a .22 likes and also takes a fair amount of time (for me at least) so the one I know is where I would stay. Unless, it does not perform which is a different issue.

What do the others do that the Kimber won't?

NOT trying to talk a guy out of buying a firearm, but given that you're a bit hesitant and they are $$$$$$$ I would go a bit slowly.
 
Steve S. said:
I am shopping for a higher end .22 rifle (very nice wood, trigger, fit/ finish, accuracy, etc)....
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Honestly, a CZ fits all that criteria for under $1K.
I think if the price puts you off you need to carefully and objectively evaluate your reasons for wanting a rifle that costs that much before you evaluate the available options.
 
wiscoaster said:
Honestly, a CZ fits all that criteria for under $1K.
I think if the price puts you off you need to carefully and objectively evaluate your reasons for wanting a rifle that costs that much before you evaluate the available options.
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There is a world that exists way beyond what CZ has to offer . Why would the OP have to "objectively evaluate" ? If he wants to buy a nice new 22 rifle so be it .

Following with interest , good luck on your search.
 
That, no doubt, is a beautiful rifle but before you put that much money into it you may want to see what it has done on a target. You may find that this exquisite looking rifle doesn't shoot any better than a stock Anschutz.
 
Dale Alan said:
...Why would the OP have to "objectively evaluate" ?...
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Because he's expressed ambivalence and requested advice. Ambivalence about a decision that needs to be made usually indicates that all the factors that make up the decision matrix haven't been objectively examined and given their proper weights. Your advice given to the OP is "forget about it and go for it". My advice given to the OP is "think about it and when your're sure about it, go for it." Obviously the money is a factor. If money were not a factor then the decision matrix would be relieved of the major factor that's introducing ambivalence. Then your advice would be more appropriate. As it is, I think my advice is more appropriate. Let the OP decide.
 
Steve S. said:
This is the Cooper at JD Outfitters - again, lots of bling, beautiful piece of art but - I just don’t know. I guess that I am looking for middle ground (ps, The Boss Lady told me to buy what I like so the only person standing View attachment 1017605 in my way is me - I just don’t know).
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That is one beautiful rifle . My only advice is make sure you spend the money allocated by the Boss . I have learned over the years if not spent in a timely manner , She may spend it on something we actually need . :)
 
wiscoaster said:
Because he's expressed ambivalence and requested advice. Ambivalence about a decision that needs to be made usually indicates that all the factors that make up the decision matrix haven't been objectively examined and given their proper weights. Your advice given to the OP is "forget about it and go for it". My advice given to the OP is "think about it and when your're sure about it, go for it." Obviously the money is a factor. If money were not a factor then the decision matrix would be relieved of the major factor that's introducing ambivalence. Then your advice would be more appropriate. As it is, I think my advice is more appropriate. Let the OP decide.
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Well you are obviously placing careful thought and consideration into this. Considering the cost of some of the high end rifles you certainly should. You also want to give due consideration to any optics like a Unertl system. Then you will likely want to try some high end ammunition to find what shoots best.

Something to consider is a lightly used rifle. I saw the Winchester Model 52 mentioned earlier. Visiting my friend's gun shop yesterday to grab a Colt Detective Special I saw a few nice Win Model 52 rifles. There was one dated 1929 (early) for $1,200 and another with a custom stock and palm rest with Unertl scope for $999. I have an Anschutz / Savage circa 1965 which likes the Eley Club and it belongs to my sister but I would guess a few grand. Unless you are set on brand new you may want to give lightly used consideration. Be patient and keep doing your homework.

Ron
 
ColtPythonElite said:
The Unertl scope was worth $999 alone unless it was in very poor condition
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Exactly and while I certainly don't need another 22 I am tempted, really tempted. :) The rifle and scope looked to be real nice condition. Only reason I noticed them was the longer fore end on the early Model 52. Another nice older 22 is a Winchester Model 75 and while not on par with the Model 52 is not a bad rifle.

Ron
 
Steve S. said:
I am shopping for a higher end .22 rifle (very nice wood, trigger, fit/ finish, accuracy, etc). I have located a custom stocked Anschutz at Canyon Creek (beautiful rifle) and a Cooper at JD Outfitters (another beautiful rifle). My consternation is the prices being north and way north of $7k causes me to pause. I have also viewed several Cooper (57-M) rifles in the $3 to $4k range that seem like nice rifles but the wood looks very ho-hum.
I presently own a Kimber 82 Yonkers (K-22) that I am trying to sell; the more I shop for a higher end .22, the more I realize that the Kimber (at a much lesser cost/ value) brings a whole lot to the table - in turn, maybe I should just keep it and that’s that.
My question to those that know is if I am missing other higher end brand offered .22’s that I should be looking at. Again, I am looking at all options - it seems that what I am wanting does exist but at an extremely higher price (at least in this market). Any direction would be appreciated.
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Wait till the market softens up, everything is way overpriced currently.
 
Reloadron said:
Exactly and while I certainly don't need another 22 I am tempted, really tempted. :) The rifle and scope looked to be real nice condition. Only reason I noticed them was the longer fore end on the early Model 52. Another nice older 22 is a Winchester Model 75 and while not on par with the Model 52 is not a bad rifle.

Ron
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Yikes, thats like buying an Unertl and getting the rifle for free!
 
You are so correct about the wood upgrade cost or for that matter, any upgrade cost. Another reality of this type of investment cost is the marketability/ residual value after the purchase - I would guess that if I bought one of these rifles today and sold it tomorrow, I may get half of the cost back if I could even find a buyer - the practical side of me keeps pushing me toward a more practical rifle that (over time) would be just as pleasing to own and shoot - as I read here and give more thought, toning down my expectations may be where the wisdom lay.
I have also thought about sending the stock of my Kimber to Turnbull as I think for about a grand (or so), they could make that exceptional stock wood really pop - I will have to think more about that option.
 
Steve S. said:
This is the Canyon Creek rifle - an example of where my search goes but again, the price gives me pause - this rifle has bling for sure and is probably worth it - I guess that I am looking for what would be called more value. View attachment 1017602
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How much accuracy does “bling” add. And who is going to take a 7K 22 squirrel hunting. No me but then…….:D I live on a fixed income. ;)
 
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