The simple elegance of Lee stuff

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I have all RCBS dies. Except for My 45 Colt dies( they were given to Me for free) They are Lee. I really like them. Super easy to adjust. Always had stuck to RCBS because that was what I was taught
 
I own a lot of Lee products and I feel they are an excellent deal for the cost. A lot of times you can spend twice as much and your ammo is no better in the end. I do own examples of all the manufacturers in buisness over the last 65 years and they ALL make great ammo. Saving money helps me shoot more so I am not a high end guy.
 
Lee should provide a free set of dies or a pro auto-disc to everyone who takes an NRA reloading course, maybe provide Breech lock presses for course instructors to teach from. Many reloaders stay with what they started learning on. And once you set a group of dies in the Breech lock bushings and change them in and out in seconds, you won’t want anything else.
 
Definitely good stuff. I own a hand-me-down press, several different dies, the aformentioned scoops, and a couple of the priming tools. All good stuff for any price but the modesty of their prices certainly doesn't hurt. Years ago, they had an offer...can't remember if you bought the book and they threw in a little press or you bought the little press and they threw in the book. I broke the press trying to resize some 270 win but I still have the book. I think the broken press was my fault for not lubing well enough.
 
I started out with Lee, mostly because my Granddad gave it to me when he was done shooting.

Lee perfect powder measure, Pro 1000 press, auto disk measure, and the lee hand primer with the entire shell holder set, and a bunch of dies.

Everything was well used for decades. The pro 1000 needed some worn out parts replaced...but one thing that never worked on it...like NEVER, according to my granddad and my own attempts to make it work.....the priming system! It just plain DOESNT WORK!

Outside of that...everything else works fine ..

I have since invested and converted to Dillion stuff...which all works...save their powder measures. THEY JUST SUCK! I bought the Hornady LNL measure and the adapter and never looked back after I got great satisfaction smashing the junk Dillion measures with a hammer....ya, they suck that bad!

On the Lee note...the perfect powder measure beats them all....even the Hornady..especially with stick powder! They only problem...I have not yet been able to adapt it to a Dillion press...so if anyone has an ideas how do it....that would be great!

But I agree with the OP...the cheap, simple Lee perfect...is about to perfect as I seen yet....it just works...crazy as that is.
 
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I have a Lee Breech lock reloader to compliment my setup, just wish they made it cast iron. Lyman brass smith would be nice, but I'm not giving up the breech lock bushings.
 
I use their mandrel neck size along with a Redding body die, find case stretch is not much of an issue with that setup. Also the collet crimper is pretty case length insensitive and does not buckle cases, the disk powder measures are ok for coarse powder but there are better choices for fine powder as it leaks from numerous cracks and crevices. I have 3 that are set up on dies for favorite loads. I also have a hand press I use for load development at the range, seat and crimp only, works well for that purpose. Would be a bad choice to resize the .375hh but most people have enough common sense not to use it for that.
 
I bought a Lee 4 die Turret press last December to reload(357 &38spl) for the first time. I use it single stage for depriming / priming. I chose not to use the auto prime and put the primers in the arm by hand. It's been a great press to learn on and I can't see the need for me to step up to a higher end system.
 
The Perfect Powder Measure doesn't look like much.......my first impression was it was joke. But the more I look, the more I find. Because it was thrown in a box with a lot of other stuff, I got no instructions, so didn't know about a lot of little things. Just now learning hopper has an on/off setting. You can turn it OFF, then lift the entire hopper off the base......to dump it. Who knew?

Then there is the other cool little feature that I missed........setting numbers on the plunger correspond to cubic centimeters.....cc's, so you can quickly set it up to match the powder scoops. At least for a coarse setting, before you fine tune it with a scale.

And having a long, skinny drop tube......it seems to handle the stick powders well.......and the measure cutoff of a long skinny tube seems more accurate than a big, wide, shallow tube. A straw vs. a saucer. (OK......an exaggeration, but you get the idea) Perhaps a tall, skinny graduated test tube vs. a beaker?

Doesn't look very impressive, but it works. Seems to be a common theme with all their stuff.
 
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I bought a breech lock pro and loaded 9mm for almost 2 years. It produced good ammo and I got used to a few annoying learning curve problems with the press.
I recently bought a Dillon 750 and a Mr Bullet feeder and set it up for 9mm and set the breech lock pro up for 45 acp.

Although I loaded with the Lee and got the job done, now when I load 45acp on the Lee I ask myself why I waited so long to step up to the Dillon.
 
Although I loaded with the Lee and got the job done, now when I load 45acp on the Lee I ask myself why I waited so long to step up to the Dillon.

Loaded about a 100 rds on a Lee before I thought screw this and bought a 650, don't regret it one bit.
 
I like the Lee dies, even though I recently got a bad one - a FL sizing die with a very rough polish.
But sometimes Lee takes their bare-bones model too far, like their trim and chamfer tools. I broke down and bought a Ch4 power trimmer. It works good but the chamfer attachments and pilots are proprietary
 
Lee now has a Classic Cast single stage that uses a Breech loader adapter. It's a massive press. You can use 1 1/4" dies, 7/8" dies, or use the Lee Breechlocks in it. On sale right now for $130 on Midwayusa; https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1013008991?pid=317831

I have one of those also and that's a killer deal if they ship it reasonably. I haven't been overly impressed with Midway for a couple years now.

I meant this one, pretty handy but just too lightweight. The ram only took a few K of pistol cases to show signs of loosening up, bearing surface is just too short for aluminum.

Easy to mix up a number of Lee presses now that "breechlock" is included in the name of all of them.
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HARD to beat the Lee Factory Crimp dies! I have one for almost every caliber I load. Not that expensive, either.
Lee is a great company. They are not trying to be 'Dillon'. They are trying to be Lee... which stands for efficient effectiveness. The prices are very good for what you get. Zero problem with Lee... and they offer products nobody else will even think about. (dippers, factory crimp dies, dies that don't look like everyone else's, inexpensive starter presses, Lee Loaders that you can load effective rounds at a remote cabin if you want to, etc.
 
The carbide FCD dies can be used as oversized sizers if one has a use for such things. I find my (well used!!) 44 brass often fails with a lengthwise crack about 1/2 way down the case. I size /decap in station 1 to the base of the bullet then fcd to the base in station 2. Cases fit my guns very well this way and I think they last longer, or at least until they fail at the case mouth. I used to toss them when 5 or 6 in a 100 lot had problems but lately brass has become scarce.
 
Found yet another.......the Lee reloading manual. Someone posted that Midway had them on sale for about $9. Always find something interesting in all manuals, so picked up one, and with savings, got the Hornady book too.

If using Lee equipment, the manual is essential. It explains a lot. But beyond that, it includes a whole slew of tables and references that I've not seen anywhere else. Things like measured case capacity in cubic centimeters for each caliber load data is provided, along with tables that allow you to calculate what a full case of any powder would weigh. Plus the load data (book is 90% load data) includes a reference to the dippers, cc's of powder etc. How they were developed, how they work. Things that correspond to their systems. Plus the powder selection for any given load is about 3X what most include. Impressive and very helpful.

Somewhere in the book is a reference to their Challenger reloading kit.....and mention that for the small volume guy wanting to reload to factory or better specs, it would be all a person would ever need. That would be me. Had someone suggested that kit to me when I was starting out, I would have rejected it outright. No way possible for it to be any good at that price. Had to be junk. In fact, if memory serves, I think someone did mention and I did reject it......and was a bit disappointed when that was what become available and I decided to make do. Experience has proven me wrong.

BTW, Hornady book is good to for it's purpose. For the calibers I'm loading for, Hornady bullets have been available when others are not. So having data specific to those bullets is helpful. Also curious that while the powder selections are pretty small, they tend to list the all stars. And is the only published load data I've seen that also includes Shooter's World powders.
 
When i first got into reloading in the late 80s my dad gave me his rcbs stuff .I mostly added rcbs then a friend turned me on to lee i use a mixture of companies stuff.I have never had a problem with the lee components ever, and most of the die sets i buy are lee and i like there dies .
Nobody has a problem with Lee until you call them… CRICKETS

to be fare, It did take Dillion 2 months to email me back. I just fixed it myself
 
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