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Mark_Mark said:
I’ll probably get on in Colt 45 too. Just getting into Cowboy guns and they are way cheaper that USPSA guns.
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Why not several? I am a huge fan of big slugs at moderate speed. 45 Colt is my all time favorite cartridge right now. Just getting into 45 CS as well. You have a huge world of fun guns there. 44 SPL, 44 Mag, 45 Colt, 45 CS...then there's the real hammers, but I'm to old to have fun shooting 500 Smith anymore, lol. And there is few things as sweet as a 250 grain slug at 850 fps through a Henry X with a suppressor.
 
EricBu said:
Why not several? I am a huge fan of big slugs at moderate speed. 45 Colt is my all time favorite cartridge right now. Just getting into 45 CS as well. You have a huge world of fun guns there. 44 SPL, 44 Mag, 45 Colt, 45 CS...then there's the real hammers, but I'm to old to have fun shooting 500 Smith anymore, lol. And there is few things as sweet as a 250 grain slug at 850 fps through a Henry X with a suppressor.
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Why not! can’t or won’t but primers, minus well buy cool guns.

I think the classic are coming back, everyone bored of plastic guns and Gen 3 glock clones
 
Mark_Mark said:
no, I think the gun people told him to cool it off, insider info dirty business. Possably work the primer profit as long as possible
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The two things they can (and do and shall) control almost 100% are primers and powder. Powder maybe even moreso than primers given the limited number of producers but, imho, there is less demand on powder than on primers right now based-upon casual observation. Perhaps not the powders we really really crave ... but there has been enough variety on the powder front to keep us content for the most part.

Primers though ... they've got us by the bollocks when it comes to primers.
 
Airborne Falcon said:
The two things they can (and do and shall) control almost 100% are primers and powder. Powder maybe even moreso than primers given the limited number of producers but, imho, there is less demand on powder than on primers right now based-upon casual observation. Perhaps not the powders we really really crave ... but there has been enough variety on the powder front to keep us content for the most part.

Primers though ... they've got us by the bollocks when it comes to primers.
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If primers remain unobtanium for the next several years, I will simply ration what I have and do my fun shooting with black powder. I cast, and it isn't that hard to make caps and black powder.
 
For primers, I think we're at the peak and coming down. 6 months ago, you would never see 2 major online dealers have primers in the same week. Now, this past week, I have seen Powder Valley, Brownells, and Midway all have a few different primers. I think the peak was a month or so ago. 6 month's ago, Gunbroker was about $150 - $175, but you could get lucky and get them for $125 final price. Currently, prices on Gunbroker are higher, like $175 - $200, as people have given up waiting and will pay those prices. But, now that some primers are trickling in here and there, those Gunbroker and gun show prices will start to drop.

Also, for people like me, that added some new calibers to their collection and want to reload instead of pay ridiculous prices for ammo, we will pay a little high primer price. I have recent bought 2 bricks for $130 and $90 each to allow me to shoot new guns with ammo that is much better than factory and way cheaper. Now, that I have stocked up a bit, people like me will leave the $90 - $108 bricks to the next people in line. Once they get stocked up a bit...prices may lower.
But, I bet there are a lot of people lined up.
 
Hartkopf said:
Hopefully but I can’t make it till then so I’ll have to make small contributions to this problem. There will be lots of shooters running dry if the world doesn’t return to almost normal in ‘24.
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I quit going to the range in April 2020, only dry fire or laser shoot in my shop for practice, maybe the occasional .22 might get out the barrel...I'm good till 2024...still buying what shows up as feasible to own...
 
What I'm seeing locally at Cabelas is $75 per brick for primers may be the "new primer normal" price. It's been that way for about 9 months. Local Cabelas receives primers about every two weeks or so, but you never know what you'll see on the shelf behind the gun checkout counter. Frankly, I've seen more primers on the shelf over the past 6 months than smokeless powders. Smokeless powders have virtually unobtainable on big box retail shelves. The cost of everything is going up, not just reloading supplies. I seriously doubt those $25 or $35 per brick price will EVER return.
So I started buying primers when I see them at $75 per brick and look for somebody close by that is willing to trade brick for brick for other primer types I'm seeking. I recently traded a brick of CCI #34 primers for a brick of Large Pistol Magnum.
 
ciwsguy said:
What I'm seeing locally at Cabelas is $75 per brick for primers may be the "new primer normal" price. It's been that way for about 9 months. Local Cabelas receives primers about every two weeks or so, but you never know what you'll see on the shelf behind the gun checkout counter. Frankly, I've seen more primers on the shelf over the past 6 months than smokeless powders. Smokeless powders have virtually unobtainable on big box retail shelves. The cost of everything is going up, not just reloading supplies. I seriously doubt those $25 or $35 per brick price will EVER return.
So I started buying primers when I see them at $75 per brick and look for somebody close by that is willing to trade brick for brick for other primer types I'm seeking. I recently traded a brick of CCI #34 primers for a brick of Large Pistol Magnum.
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I think one question is, How much profit, if any, will the reloading community in general allow a manufacturer to make before declaring themselves no longer "in the market" for that item? If the general consensus is, no one should buy at more than the cost of manufacturing, then manufacturing will cease. Completely. The other question is, How much markup will be tolerated by distributors and retailers before the reloading community blackballs them? If no markup is tolerable, then distribution and sales will cease. Completely.

I guess in my mind the rule of thumb as always been to buy low, sell high, and watch the market for trends. "Low" and "High" are relative terms.
 
Hartkopf said:
Small Pistol Primers | Reloading Primers | Bullet Primers | MidwayUSA

Midway has had three flavors of primers in stock all day. That's a good sign that people are tired of paying $75+, plus hazmat and shipping. Or it's a bad sign everybody is running out of money.
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Well, it's a sure sign the limit of 1! is an unnecessary thing.

I don't mind paying going rate. I always prefer paying less but I always try for a win-win situation where I'm not over-paying and the seller isn't over-charging. I doubt the manufacturers are making out like bandits but some of the retailers may be profiteering just a bit. In anticipation of... ????

I wasn't (entirely) kidding when I quipped a while back the primer factories may be having a hard time hiring. I've seen people in their 20's and 30's who looked fit enough to work begging for handouts right in front of "We're Hiring" signs. And there are restaurants in the "big city" offering $18/hr starting pay for wait staff! $22/hr starting pay for unskilled kitchen staff! Those signs have been up for close to three months. There's something horribly wrong when nobody is willing to work for $22/hr in a kitchen, no skills needed, training provided.
 
GeoDudeFlorida said:
Well, it's a sure sign the limit of 1! is an unnecessary thing.

I don't mind paying going rate. I always prefer paying less but I always try for a win-win situation where I'm not over-paying and the seller isn't over-charging. I doubt the manufacturers are making out like bandits but some of the retailers may be profiteering just a bit. In anticipation of... ????

I wasn't (entirely) kidding when I quipped a while back the primer factories may be having a hard time hiring. I've seen people in their 20's and 30's who looked fit enough to work begging for handouts right in front of "We're Hiring" signs. And there are restaurants in the "big city" offering $18/hr starting pay for wait staff! $22/hr starting pay for unskilled kitchen staff! Those signs have been up for close to three months. There's something horribly wrong when nobody is willing to work for $22/hr in a kitchen, no skills needed, training provided.
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yep! my restaurant buddies are offering $22/hour plus tips. a meal ticket at this restaurant is $50/per person average
 
WeekendReloader said:
Either way.. Have enough already or Out of money... the demand will go down and pricing will follow.
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The question is how much of that is the increase mfg promised vs demand premium. Plus with some ammo being unobtainable the only way to shoot those chamberings is by reloading. I don't think reloading supplies demand will drop until factory ammo is easily found and at "normal" pricing. That or until we're all stocked up for the zombie apocalypse and swimming through our stashes like scroodge mcduck in his vault.
 
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