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OK; you guys ever have a thing that rankles you so bad you wanna scream? (a so-called "pet peeve") Well, I have one, with regard to Black Powder.
First of all, I'm not a so-called "grammar Nazi". I can put up with most misspellings, incorrect verbiage and peoples' cell phones making auto-corrects that they don't catch...(I've learned to proof read my own before hitting "post")...but there is one word that everyone in the black powder section should know. All of us. And the word is...

Hawken.

Not Hawkin, not Hawkins, not Hawkens.

Hawken.

The Hawken style half-stock rifle was made popular by brothers Samuel and Jacob (Sam and Jake , as they're known) Hawken, who had their famed gun shop in St. Louis. There is a ton of info out there about the Hawken brothers and their famed gun shop, and most of it is good reading, too! So, next time you are posting about your Hawken rifle, make sure you don't sound like the new kid on the block that knows nothing about the subject you're posting about. Rant over. Carry on, men.
 
What if it's a You-birdie? Is that something you can shoot?

"Uberti," when said that way, is a pet peeve of mine. The real pronunciation is oo-BEHR-tee. So "a Uberti" is not correct either. That should be "an Uberti."

"Pietta," when pronounced pye-EH-ta, is another pronunciation error. Pee-EH-ta is correct.
 
Hawken was phonetic for those gunsmiths "Hachen" ancestors in Switzerland, and Samuel was also known as Hawkins, even back then.

I cringe when someone pronounces "sabot" as sabbott instead of saybow.
Also, when someone says "Armi San Marcos". It's "Marco". No "s" on that !!!
 
What if it's a You-birdie? Is that something you can shoot?

"Uberti," when said that way, is a pet peeve of mine. The real pronunciation is oo-BEHR-tee. So "a Uberti" is not correct either. That should be "an Uberti."

"Pietta," when pronounced pye-EH-ta, is another pronunciation error. Pee-EH-ta is correct.

Well, now that you mention it...
 
Hawken was phonetic for those gunsmiths "Hachen" ancestors in Switzerland, and Samuel was also known as Hawkins, even back then.
"Hawkins" makes me think of Treasure Island...:eek:

I cringe when someone pronounces "sabot" as sabbott instead of saybow.
Da Sabbott is when you're not allowed to hunt in some counties...:rofl:

Also, when someone says "Armi San Marcos". It's "Marco". No "s" on that !!!

When I think of my guns, I feel like Imelda Marcos and her shoes. I'm sure that's where a lot of the confusion comes in...:D
 
I cringe when someone pronounces "sabot" as sabbott instead of saybow.

Since we're being pedantic, "saybow" would probably make me cringe harder, because it makes me think of speaking French with a deep southern U.S. accent. sa-'bō or ˈsæboʊ are much closer. (If you don't like IPA, that's about halfway between SAH-boh and SEH-boh)

...but it's all good since it's not MY pet peeve. Just don't say "mute point". THAT one drives me up the wall. ;)
 
Since we're being pedantic, "saybow" would probably make me cringe harder, because it makes me think of speaking French with a deep southern U.S. accent. sa-'bō or ˈsæboʊ are much closer. (If you don't like IPA, that's about halfway between SAH-boh and SEH-boh)

...but it's all good since it's not MY pet peeve. Just don't say "mute point". THAT one drives me up the wall. ;)
If it's a "mute point", would it not follow to reason it would be deaf as well?
 
Since we're being pedantic, "saybow" would probably make me cringe harder, because it makes me think of speaking French with a deep southern U.S. accent. sa-'bō or ˈsæboʊ are much closer. (If you don't like IPA, that's about halfway between SAH-boh and SEH-boh)...


We in the south also say Mercy Buccups and Horse Deoveries. So Saybow just fits better. But it sure ain't no sabbott. Oh, and a "sabbotted slug" is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
 
Meplat pronounced to rhyme with flat. More IPA French phonemes.
Yea, they talk funny.

On the news when they call a semiautomatic an automatic firearm. Usually accompanied with a pained facial expression of disapproval.
 
The correct spelling is of practical importance as well! If you are searching for a "Paterson" and type in Patterson, you may be disappointed in the results. Similarly, if you list a "Patterson" for sale, you may not get many hits! Right is right and wrong usually leads you astray!
 
I was at a SHOT show long ago talking to one of the Pietta clan. I fellow walks up and asks which in attendance was Philly Pietta? We all busted up.
 
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