TSA confiscates record number of guns in 2021

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Maybe concealed carry classes should include a block of instruction on guns in gun free zones, especially places that can result in a felony charge if the law is violated. I would imagine 15 or 20 minutes would be sufficient.
Schools and federal properties if I'm not mistaken. Airports, because 9/11 I think. Places with 30-06 and 30-07, and when verbally told you can't carry. Places who's income comes from at least 51% booze.

This isn't for felony, but where it's restricted

I'm saying this off the top of my head , I took the class.. February?I got my license after my break up, I remember that.

This is for Texas.
 
Maybe concealed carry classes should include a block of instruction on guns in gun free zones, especially places that can result in a felony charge if the law is violated. I would imagine 15 or 20 minutes would be sufficient.
I just watched an episode of the show Mike Rowe narrates. American Jobs? Is was covering of an airport in Florida. In one segment, the security supervisor was called to bag check for a possible weapon in a luggage. The owner had a CCW, but the handgun, with a separate loaded magazine was laying loose in the luggage. LE didn't arrest him. But he was escorted out with LE in control of his weapon until they were out of the restricted area. Plus it was stated he would be facing up to $11k fine. That's an expensive lesson.
 
Just supposition, but I would think this trend is related to the high number of new gun owners over the past several years.

I’m glad to have new firearms owners taking responsibility for their own protection. Sorry some of them are taking the hit of fines and potential arrests due to lack of knowledge (commonly called ignorance).
 
Yes there are lots of gun owners who not only abide by the laws - but go out of their way to comply... I'm just a cynical old retired cop but I think the rise in gun carrying "incidents" in places where it's prohibited is a direct reflection on how badly our society has deteriorated - and how little faith ordinary folks place in the authorities charged with protecting all of us...

If in the next election our country turns away from the folks currently in power - I'd hope that a high priority would be placed on good old fashioned law enforcement - particularly in big cities - no matter how entrenched the folks are who've brought us to this pass...
 
I think it's many of the new owners who have no training and don't bother thinking about restrictions. Also, the mindset of many gun rights activists who defiantly feel they can do whatever they want.
 
I am not sure why this is happening all of a sudden, but suspect it is a troubling combination of feeling threatened and thoughtlessness. New gun owners should be more aware of restrictions, but if no one feels responsible for working with new gun owners to get them the info they need, maybe we are setting them up to fail.
 
I’d bet the vast majority of it is simply forgetting that the weapon is in their carry on, which tends to be a commonly carried piece of equipment anyway (ie:- purse, “murse”, favorite backpack, etc). So, while more people peacefully carrying firearms is generally a good thing, one has to be careful about places like airports. My personal method is to never “cross streams” so to speak. Anything I ever use as a carry on is never used for anything firearms related, so that way there no chance of forgetting that there may be something unwanted in there.

This happened a good bit in other countries with military contractors, for things that are far more restrictive, like a single round, shell casing, or a magazine. I’m some places, that’ll land you in jail immediately. Because of that, many individuals chose not to “double duty” their airline luggage / carryon items, just in case.
 
I’d bet the vast majority of it is simply forgetting that the weapon is in their carry on, which tends to be a commonly carried piece of equipment anyway (ie:- purse, “murse”, favorite backpack, etc).

I'm more in the camp of 50/50. 50% simply forgetting and 50% stupidity/ignorance. With the huge increase in forearm ownership by folks who never had a gun before, much less a handgun/CCW, odds are not everyone of those folks is a responsible gun owner. A 4473 is not exactly an intelligence test. Not every state where CWC is legal, requires one to know even the most basic of gun laws/safety. Several years back, on a fly-in fishing trip to Canada, I used a dufflebag that I had used earlier in the Spring on a turkey hunting trip. Got to the remote fly on cabin and discovered 2 turkey shells in the bottom under my stuff that I had forgotten were there. Luckily we weren't searched at the border. They got left there.

Lots of confiscations, and no violence. Sounds like good Americans being confused by complicated laws. How about changing the laws to meet our needs? I know, crazy thought.

You want to change the law so that folks can carry concealed on a plane, or just that folks in general don't get scanned before getting on a plane? Every time I go thru the scanner at the airport, I am amazed at the bin by the metal/detector/scanner full of confiscated items. Things that anyone with half a brain knows are not permitted. As Ron White says over and over...."You can't fix Stupid!". Want to be an gun owner, then be responsible. Show the anti's we have more than half a brain and quit looking for an excuse for your own ineptness.
 
Just supposition, but I would think this trend is related to the high number of new gun owners over the past several years.

I’m glad to have new firearms owners taking responsibility for their own protection. Sorry some of them are taking the hit of fines and potential arrests due to lack of knowledge (commonly called ignorance).

I think this is probably a lot of it.

At the last few gun shows that I have gone to I have seen Goldfish bowels full of pocket knives, nail clippers, tweezers, ect for sale. Usually your pick $5. Rumor had it that these were airport confiscations.
 
Want to be an gun owner, then be responsible. Show the anti's we have more than half a brain and quit looking for an excuse for your own ineptness.

TSA Agent at scanner:
“Ma’am, this Colt 1911 cannot go into the cabin of the aircraft. Instead, TSA will secure it in our explosive lockbox in the luggage hold. When you get to your destination, report to the TSA office and your Colt 1911 property will be handed over to you.”

When you said “your” above, I know you weren’t talking about “me” but people in general. We’ve got to stop that. People are people and the vast majority are good. It’s going to take us to stop the divide, not “them”.
 
When you said “your” above, I know you weren’t talking about “me” but people in general. We’ve got to stop that. People are people and the vast majority are good. It’s going to take us to stop the divide, not “them”.

If the "vast" majority is good, why then your suggestion of changing rules and laws to accommodate those few that are irresponsible? That's where my response originally came from. As responsible gun owners, we have spent decades trying to separate(divide) us from criminals and their criminal activities involving guns. I'm not going to stop that because of a few ignorant and irresponsible gun owners, especially when they are committing criminal acts. Their actions are a reflection on all of us. Whether it's stupidity, ignorance or just a brain fart of just a few, anti's put us all in the same bag when they shake it up. You can put yourself in that bag if you want, but I ain't going to.
 
I suspect that a good bit of this problem is a result of new gun owners not aware of the regulations, although I can't imagine how someone would think it alright to bring a firearm aboard when they confiscate pocket knives and nail files. Also, and at the risk of offending some here, I wonder if these incidents are perhaps an unintended consequence of "constitutional carry"; people not having to learn the applicable laws?
 
Schools and federal properties if I'm not mistaken. Airports, because 9/11 I think. Places with 30-06 and 30-07, and when verbally told you can't carry. Places who's income comes from at least 51% booze.

This isn't for felony, but where it's restricted

I'm saying this off the top of my head , I took the class.. February?I got my license after my break up, I remember that.

This is for Texas.

You really might want to review your Texas and federal laws because you have said a lot that is not correct.
 
In addition to all the good factors already cited there's seems to be some less obvious stuff going on. One is the huge increase in number of smaller pistols being made. Some are so small they fit comfortably in back pockets and easy to forget they are there. As for where confiscated weapons go i see a real increase in online ads for "repair" parts or kits containing everything but receivers. These seem to all sell fast and high. A friend who must fly a lot told me he has "lost" 2 very expensive Leatherman's in recent months. He did say he remembered before he got to counter and gave them to folks in the lobby who looked like they would appreciate them.
 
Somehow everyone thinks people are knowingly doing this. I’m sure there are a few that think they can get the gun through, although why you would believe that in today’s environment is beyond me.

As noted in the post above this, i very strongly suspect most people simply get distracted by all the things involved in making your flight, connections, etc. They overlook the the firearm

If most members here would be honest, you’ve probably worn CC into some place you shouldn’t. Post Office, etc. I had a brand new knife I was given as an award at a company meeting. My idiot ex wife packed it in carry on and it got confiscated
 
You really might want to review your Texas and federal laws because you have said a lot that is not correct.
Can you point out where I'm wrong? Not trying to start anything, but having a pointer on what I got wrong would be a step in the right direction.
 
Both the number of guns confiscated (and the reason they were there in the first place) are just signs of the growing loss of respect for law and order.
 
I disagree with that. When it comes to airports and TSA there is virtually no chance of getting away with carrying in that fashion, so it is pointless. That’s why I’m going with stupidity as an explanation.

Let’s be honest- we see it all around us every day : common sense is becoming increasingly uncommon.
 
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