223 Muzzle Brake question.

What kind of rifle are you using that 223 kicks "like a wild horse"?

Personal preference on my part, but I wouldn't bother with a muzzle brake on a rifle chambered in 223. They don't have much recoil to them. If you are wanting to control muzzle climb while shooting, you would be better of using a compensator instead.

This is for your 527 correct?

Here is a good article that explains the differences between a muzzle brake and a compensator.

https://www.silencercentral.com/blog/muzzle-brake-vs-compensator-which-is-right-for-your-rifle/

And by the sounds of it, you will be better off with a compensator if shooting LRPS. A comp will help you stay on target a lot better than a brake will.

I was recently raked over the coals by another group of gun guys on the internet for suggesting that a Surefire Warcomp was anything other than decidedly the best of the best.

Personally, I've always used A2 birdcages on everything though.

MR WICK said:

Yes sir.

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Im not sure what your shoulder OD is but id probably go with a slim, side venting brake like the Faxon Slim 3 port. A large diameter brake will look funny on that skinny barrel.

One of the best IMHO is the Precision Armament Hypertap:

https://precisionarmament.com/hypertap-muzzle-brake/

It flat out works great. This combined with an AGB, low mass BCG, and adjustable buffer, makes my match AR feel like a .22LR.

But..it's LOUD! I have SO's during matches complaining about how loud it is, and that's with pretty much 95% of a squad shooting ARs with brakes. Shoot it from inside a blue barrel and or around barricades and you'll want to double up on the ear-pro. It's also expensive

These are a great reference, though they are a bit dated and may not include some newer offerings.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/556-muzzle-device-shootout/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar-15-muzzle-brake-shootout-2/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ar-15-muzzle-brake-shootout-3/

Personally, I like the Strike Industries J-Comp for a balance of cost and performance. It did make a noticeable on my AR vs the A2. Definitely reduced recoil, thought it is a little louder as far as perceived blast.

MR WICK said:

Which Muzzle Brake would you guys recommend for my 223. It kicks like a wild horse.

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What?!

Every day is upper body day this coming year, for you!

But, seriously...

The Badger FTE variants and V Seven Furions are nice, neutral designs which keep the crown accessible for cleaning.

I did a cheap tanker style muzzle brake experiment with my one and only AR. I don'tconsider the AR to be a hard recoiling rifle at and I am an average sized, skinny, old geezer. No muscle mass left and surgically repaired shoulders to boot. What I wanted was the gun to stay on target so I could see bullet strikes thru my scope. The brake did the job and made the rifle almost like a 22 LR except for two things, noise and felt concussion. It was extremely loud and you could feel the pressure wave. The wave wasn't really a problem but the noise was. I and anyone on the firing line hated it. The tin roof over the line is really nice in hot weather but helps contain the noise. I didn't like out in the open air either and it resides in a box now.

My suggestion to the OP is to never fire a larger caliber than the 223 which most people consider to a very soft shooter.

To be clear the OP isn't talking about an AR, He's talking about a cz 527SR...
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american-synthetic-suppressor-ready/

My 527 American in 6.5 grendel was comfortable but it moved around quite a bit. Probably out weighted the SR by a a decent amount since it's barrel is 8" longer and it had a wood stock.

AR, CZ, they should weigh close to the same. Not having a CZ I used the AR as an example of what to expect from a 223 rifle when you equip it with a brake. Hardly any recoil, much more noise.

LoonWulf said:

To be clear the OP isn't talking about an AR, He's talking about a cz 527SR...
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-american-synthetic-suppressor-ready/

My 527 American in 6.5 grendel was comfortable but it moved around quite a bit. Probably out weighted the SR by a a decent amount since it's barrel is 8" longer and it had a wood stock.

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Whoopsie...

doubleh said:

AR, CZ, they should weigh close to the same. Not having a CZ I used the AR as an example of what to expect from a 223 rifle when you equip it with a brake. Hardly any recoil, much more noise.

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I sure didn’t

doubleh said:

AR, CZ, they should weigh close to the same. Not having a CZ I used the AR as an example of what to expect from a 223 rifle when you equip it with a brake. Hardly any recoil, much more noise.

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My experience is that an average ar is 1-2lbs heavier than a 527, again not going to make the gun unpleasant, but it will jump around more.
But yes a brake will make the gun significantly louder, and WAY more Blasty. I can deal with the noise by adding extra earpro, but the blast I find offensive as a bystander....as the shooter I don't find any real downsides to range use.

MR WICK said:

Which Muzzle Brake would you guys recommend for my 223. It kicks like a wild horse.

And thank you to everyone for helping me on my journey of LRPS.

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An AAC 51-T so you can attach your SDN6 suppressor to it. the one you're going to get that is.

redcon1 said:

An AAC 51-T so you can attach your SDN6 suppressor to it. the one you're going to get that is.

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Is AAC up and churning out SDN6's again?

If you think the recoil of a 223 rifle is bad, you probably shouldn't be shooting firearm's in the first place. Just my 2 cents!

I haven't shot .223 from a bolt gun for whatever it's worth I can't imagine it being any worse than shooting my old .30-06. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think comparing recoil between an AR and a bolt gun is a fair comparison. In the semi-auto some of the gases are bled off to cycle the action & someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought the buffer reduced recoil some also.

To the OP I don't know anything about brakes. If it will help you that is great.

I don't know what position you are shooting from but I would suggest making sure you keep the buttstock firmly against your shoulder.

I'll again recommend going with a compensator over a brake. A good compensator will keep the barrel from jumping around/rising when fired allowing faster follow up shots without being excessively loud like a brake will be.

gotboostvr said:

Is AAC up and churning out SDN6's again?

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I don't think so. I'm just suggesting that there are other considerations to picking a flash hider/muzzle break beyond the obvious ones.

redcon1 said:

I don't think so. I'm just suggesting that there are other considerations to picking a flash hider/muzzle break beyond the obvious ones.

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The only reason I've been looking at muzzle devices other than A2 birdcages is that I've got a whisper pickle in NFA jail right now.

gotboostvr said:

The only reason I've been looking at muzzle devices other than A2 birdcages is that I've got a whisper pickle in NFA jail right now.

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I have the SDN6. Which one did you get?