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Indeed. Up, forward, and into orbit!SKS definitely ejects more up and forward, compared to pretty much straight sideways on the AK.
Indeed. Up, forward, and into orbit!SKS definitely ejects more up and forward, compared to pretty much straight sideways on the AK.
I did have a CAI marked Yugo M70 once that was great, but it was one of the ones they had subcontracted to a shop in Texas for assembly. The Century USA MANUFACTURED AKs with all the castings and brittle wood were terrible.....
Listen to your inner voice, you do what that AK, as a matter of fact, get an upgraded version, the AK-103 from Kalashnikov-usa.com KR103 uses the original data pack from Russian and build to specs, Another good option is a Zastava M70. God knows long before they ban importation of those too, remember Chinese Aks and Saigas were very cheap and now they are worth a lot of money, even Wasr10 are getting expensive.Yeah, I know they're not known for great accuracy, and I know there's no cheap supply of ammo coming in right now. But I've been looking at the design, and that's gotten me interested.
If I were to buy, I'd want it chambered in 7.62x39, and decently built. I saw MAC did an initial review of a couple Palmetto State Armory AKs, and they seemed alright. I know nothing about the various brands. All I have now is an interest.
Any thoughts or suggestions? I've got no purpose in mind for it. I just thought it'd be fun to get to know one.
... At one point a few years ago the 5.45x39 for the AK74 was cheaper than the 7.62x39, I bought most of this stack for about 9 cents per round.[/ATTACH]
99% of the bad-mouthing of the AK's comes from a lack of any real experience with one, not from a lack of gun.
Youre pretty much making my point here.My dislike for the AK only increased when I actually tried one, and realized in addition to the poor ergonomics and increased weight, it also does not have a last round bolt hold open, AND you can't cycle the action without turning the safety off first... Sure it was fun to shoot, and if it were all you had it would be the best gun in the world... but I still don't understand the hype. My AR-15 is reliable, light, ergonomic, has a bolt hold open, and no funky rock-n-lock for inserting a new mag.
Ding! We have a winner.What about vz. 58 instead? AKish look but with additional features
Youre trying to work an AK like an AR, and that's not going to work, either way.
I just don't like having to partially remove my shooting hand from the pistol grip to reach/actuate the safety with my fingers, or having to rotate the gun 90 degrees so my left hand can reach the charging handle that's on the right side of the gun. That's what I meant by poor ergonomics.
You touch on a good and seemingly forgotten point that most of the AK's Americans are familiar with are of the M1/M14 era, and not really the current AK's, like the AK100 series and onward. The AK's have continued to progress, just like the AR's. We just dont really have access to them, at least in original form, just bastardized copies at best.I like the AK platform, have had saiga's in x39 and 12 ga, WASR10, akm, Norinco, etc. They are fun, reasonably accurate, and a good contemporary to all of the weapons of their design era. People seem to forget that the ar is a VERY developed platform, and an AK in the 60s was the better gun. A modern AK is very capable, but kinda oversized for what it is. More like a bulldozer than a pickup. That said, I seem to have AK's come and go, currently have my WASR10 up for sale..
The argument that ammo for these is either expensive or hard to get is an absolute lie though. 7.62x39 is the cheapest rifle ammunition available anywhere, and is available almost everywhere worldwide. There are supply chain hiccups going on right now, but x39 is just as available as anything else...
This was my choice. Love my Vz.58's.What about vz. 58 instead? AKish look but with additional features