Shivahasagun
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I'll increase the flare, too.That would take some current waay out of adjustment but could be correct.
I'll increase the flare, too.That would take some current waay out of adjustment but could be correct.
I'll increase the flare, too.
Aha! Take a look at the three photos here and look for the little aluminum disconnecter button on the lever. That and the chain & lever should’ve been in a plastic bag when you bought the auto drum. This could splain a lotI'm not sure what this "chain" device a few of you have mentioned is. I guess I don't have that.
And I'm not familiar with this alluminum "button", either.
Oh, sorry. Your question wasn't for me.
Not a lot tho.
True, as I described, that’s just what I set up & used as a test for this thread to refresh my recollection from when I used the auto drum. I also used it with 45ACP back then and the results were then and will now be the same of that I have no doubt.Actually, it was, I just failed to notice that CQP was pronouncing on what his measure does with a different caliber, not you describing a trial with .45s.
Let us know when you have tried some .45s.
Aha! Take a look at the three photos here and look for the little aluminum disconnecter button on the lever. That and the chain & lever should’ve been in a plastic bag when you bought the auto drum. This could splain a lot
Without button, yes for certain. You remove the button and use hole to attach chain. Relying on memory here, but the chain simply “automates” the reset on a progressive press I think, but manual reset is still there without the chain. I’d test it for you but I haven’t dragged out my turret press for this test, yet but don’t think it’s used on turret.I'm not familiar with any of this. I can't wait to get home and check!
Would the drum work without these items?
I thought I knew enough about this powder dropper but apparently I barely know it at all.
I'm not sure what this "chain" device a few of you have mentioned is. I guess I don't have that.
And I'm not familiar with this alluminum "button", either.
I think you conflated two separate statements.... I made no such assertion that they were all garbage. I asserted they are mechanically simular and the Lee was garbage.Negative. You certainly can have your opinion, but it doesn’t match how my progressive presses work. I recently loaded 700 rounds of .45 on an RL1100, not one issue with a powder drop. That was WST BTW. PMC, Aguila, WIN, FED, S&B and a few other oddball HSs, no sorting by length and I can assure you I do not trim semi-auto pistol cases.
On a PTX (Powder Through Expander) it will vary to some degree the amount of bell or flare, absolutely, so you need to be mindful of that. My LNL does not have any issue with powder drops either.
I do not have or have loaded with a Lee drum, but if that has an issue with case lengths such that slight variations will affect powder drops, it would not be a consideration for my reloading bench.
Agree on all points.Any powder drop system that can't overcome an issue with slight differences in case length is a bad system, or it isn't adjusted properly.
Most folks do not trim auto cases, nor do many segregate cases, so such a system would be causing wide spread issues.
Mr. Lee is smarter than that.
That’s fitting of its own thread…how much is a dickens?Actually, it was, I just failed to notice that CQP was pronouncing on what his measure does with a different caliber, not you describing a trial with .45s.
Let us know when you have tried some .45s.
Flare the dickens out of them, the most that will enter the seating die.
I put bullet condition ahead of "brass life".
And yet you use the button?Don't worry about it. They were useless.
I'm not sure what this "chain" device a few of you have mentioned is. I guess I don't have that.
Everyone has a different standard. My expectation of performance is based on subsafe. Nasa developed a simular standard after challenger. I don't need a dramatic example to have high standards. I buy products that work as they should. I weigh every charge that goes into every case I load. The weakest link in any system is tolerance. In my system that's the tolerance of the scale.I think you’re missing the point. With all the mixed range brass I’ve loaded, case length didn’t affect powder drop, with at least the LNL or Dillon measures. I don’t own a Lee drum, but would expect it to drop powder, consistently, within a range of case lengths as well, or it wouldn’t sell. I think it’s a bit harsh to call it garbage.
NOE makes PTX expanders that will fit in the AutoDrum setup. Lee is rumored to be working on m-type PTX plug, too.And I like the m type expander.
This is the best info you will get! Most folks having issues with the AutoDrum have not installed it correctly into the PTX die— or the PTX riser— or a combination of BOTH. the powder measure must be fully screwed into the riser, which must be fully screwed into the die, which only then can be set up for proper case flare and powder drop function.Is suggest to take it off, clean it and set it up again along with the powder through die. That die flares the case as well.
I agree!Most folks do not trim auto cases, nor do many segregate cases, so such a system would be causing wide spread issues.
Mr. Lee is smarter than that.
Are you sure you adjust die after the riser and auto drum are installed and not before? Looks like their confusing instructions indicate one way for pistol and another for rifle.The AutoDrum should work with most any resized case if installed properly.
As for
NOE makes PTX expanders that will fit in the AutoDrum setup. Lee is rumored to be working on m-type PTX plug, too.
This is the best info you will get! Most folks having issues with the AutoDrum have not installed it correctly into the PTX die— or the PTX riser— or a combination of BOTH. the powder measure must be fully screwed into the riser, which must be fully screwed into the die, which only then can be set up for proper case flare and powder drop function.
I agree!
Are you sure you adjust die after the riser and auto drum are installed and not before? Looks like their confusing instructions indicate one way for pistol and another for rifle.
As my photos show, I am familiar with how this unit is assembled and I do know how it works.Yes. Quite sure. If the AutoDrum and riser are not fully screwed into the die, the drum will not rotate fully and dump powder. Additionally, there is no way for the AutoDrum & riser to hold adjustment unless they are fully screwed into the die.
Die height (amount the die is screwed into the turret) determines travel/flare from the case that actuates the AutoDrum.
I don’t think it’s garbage just quirky, too quirky for me so I quit using it.
I went to a Uniflow now dippers. Nothing quirky about the dippers and my wife says the user is very handsome.
I bought one of those adapters too and another type but then stopped altogether and now dip. Go figureI gave up on the auto drum a long time ago. Way too quirky and inconsistent for me. I use a Little Dandy on my LCT now. Works great.
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