This horse has been beaten to death on a weekly basis for at least a year......
100 posts @Walkalong,,,,,PLEASE SHUT IT DOWN.....
100 posts @Walkalong,,,,,PLEASE SHUT IT DOWN.....
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Agreed, but It is obviously an important topic to a lot of people who want to discuss it.This horse has been beaten to death on a weekly basis for at least a year......
Because nothing says freedom like censorship. God Bless America.100 posts @Walkalong,,,,,PLEASE SHUT IT DOWN.....
Upcoming? He is about 5+ years late to the party.He's always going on and on about the powder shortage upcoming...
Go to the range and shoot it?
You and a lot of others. Which is exactly why we have these panics on a fairly regular basis.Yeah ya lost me there.
I do agree with you in terms of the fact that we are seeing frequent panics, but the bottom line is that when there's money to be made with reasonable risk, you can be sure the market will insure that someone steps in to make that money. Ammo companies are in business to sell people ammo. If they think they can sell more ammo, they will make more ammo. If they think they can sell more ammo and make more money if they build larger facilities then they will build larger facilities. Are we supposed to believe that all the ammo makers are thinking. "Well, I could make more money with reasonable risk, but why would I want to do that?" Obviously that makes no sense.It is, however, not a temporary market. This surge will subside, but it will surge again, probably within a year. As I stated earlier, we still haven't recovered from the last shortage. Indeed, my area has been in a perpetual state of ammo shortage since at least 2020, and we really weren't over the shortage caused by the 2016 election, and honestly, even in 2016-2020 we were still being impacted by the 2008-2016 years. (which were at least as bad as the 2020 episode) So this isn't temporary; this is a permanent and perpetual state of the market.
It falls short because so few people follow it.On its face, your idea has plenty of merit. In practice, I feel it just falls short. Even when I have ammo on hand, I still buy ammo whenever it's available, because I know...I just know that sometime soon it will not be available. Think of it as a vote of no confidence in the ammo manufacturers' ability to keep up with demand.
A small LGS. Just a single guy there, the owner. He's always going on and on about the powder shortage upcoming and how ammo for is already going up in price. Last month he was telling regular WWB 5.56 is already $22 a box his cost. I think he just has a crappy distributor or a crappy pay scale.
That might be the single most poetic thing ever written on this forum.the people who flock to the stores and buy for the most part do not practice at the range and imstread simply treat their purchases as magical talismans of protection from an ambiguous spirit of evil and harm.
My wife just informed me that she purchased another case of range ammunition the other day.Did anyone else just hear the sound a record makes when you drag the needle all the way across it?
My wife just informed me that she purchased another case of range ammunition the other day.
I thought you'd like to know
Three years ago today. The line to buy ammo at my local Cabela's went all the way through the store, out the door and into the parking lot. You were only allowed to buy one box. But there's nothing to see here, move along. Ammo shortages aren't real.
Of course they are real. There's no question that they exist and that they cause a lot of problems, inconvenience, price hikes, etc.Ammo shortages aren't real.
Amen.There is little arcane knowledge to predicting the good times to buy ammo.
Insider hint: One of those good times is right now and one of the bad times will be this upcoming November.
Plan wisely.
I will concede that the image I posted above was taken the morning after an employee posted the night prior on social media that they had received a truck shipment of ammo. But that was the first shipment in weeks or months. I don't know how that isn't supply related.The issue is that they are almost always caused by demand spikes caused by panic-buying (due to rumors, negative news, adverse current events, etc.), and only rarely due to actual supply issues.
This has been "self perpetuating" for over a sixteen plus years. This is the new normal. It is absolutely foolish for anyone serious shooting enthusiast to not buy ammo when it is available.Then once they are started, they tend to self-perpetuate.
Again, this is normal, but I agree, there is no way the manufacturers can recover supply without significant investment in infrastructure-which, I think we're all agreed, they absolutely will not do.Once consumers start buying at levels significantly beyond normal demand, the nature of the ammunition manufacturing and supply chain makes it hard for the supply to recover.
That's what I've been saying for years now.My point is that be it a panic shortage or otherwise an artificially created shortage it still lasted for 8 years.
I don't think it's unreasonable to factor that into my planning
Looks kinda like one of those flash mobs swarming a San Francisco department store.Three years ago today. The line to buy ammo at my local Cabela's went all the way through the store, out the door and into the parking lot. You were only allowed to buy one box. But there's nothing to see here, move along. Ammo shortages aren't real.
My wife can Pinch A Penny so hard you'll hear Abraham Lincoln scream.
All the more reason to load your own shells like I do. Haven't bought any assembled shotgun ammo in a year I betMy local range is shut down for updating. I was at a local indoor range/gun shop. The Rep for Remington was there and I heard him tell one of the employees that they seemed to have a lot of shot gun ammo. He said if I were you I would put some away and wait a bit. There is a world wide shortage of powder. He said that the price for shot gun ammo is going to spike due to a coming shortage. This was as I was leaving the range and looking at their stock. I did a quick search on line and found that others are saying this same thing. So I believe its so. I bought a case of 00 Buck. For the what its worth dept.
I'm about to poke the bear.
If memory serves (at my age that's a big if) the Obama shortages started to ease up about halfway through his second term.
That's approximately when I restructured my gun accumulation and started concentrating on laying in a supply of ammunition and accessories.
I have more (pre Colorado ban) magazines than I will ever wear out. When I got there I started concentrating strictly on ammunition.
My point is that I had at least 8 years (God only gave Joseph 7) to get ready for the famine.
Every Single One Of You reading this had the same 8 years.
It's not mine nor the fault of anyone else who put the time to good use that you chose not to.
There have been some shortages that lasted a long time--years even, but not 8 years. At least not by any reasonable definition of shortage.My point is that be it a panic shortage or otherwise an artificially created shortage it still lasted for 8 years.
You'll know when it's the new normal with enough certainty when you see that the ammo manufactures are willing to make permanent upgrades (at great expense) to meet it.I see the current demand as the new normal. What we are experiencing is the "normal demand curve" for ammo.
There have been frequent ammo shortages (almost all panic-driven demand surges) for quite a long time now, but in between, there have usually been periods where supply has recovered and prices have fallen. If you mean that panic-buying demand surges are going to be with us forever, I agree. If you mean that they are actually changing the overall demand level for ammo in a way that makes sense for the industry to try to compensate for, then that's another story. There have been some changes/expansions in the ammo industry, but they are NEVER going to be enough to be able to level out these panic-buying surges. It's just not possible or financially feasible. We are going to have to live with that. There's simply no reasonable business model that would allow ammo makers to provide reasonably priced ammunition and maintain manufacturing/production/supply chain reserves sufficient to cancel out a panic-based shortage.This has been "self perpetuating" for over a sixteen plus years.