red rick
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Probably a couple bucks cheaper . I’m not going to carry enough of it where the weight would make a difference to me .In what way is aluminum a 'benefit' over brass?
Probably a couple bucks cheaper . I’m not going to carry enough of it where the weight would make a difference to me .In what way is aluminum a 'benefit' over brass?
Yeah I had a box of their 45 auto 230gr stuff and it shot very well. Like basically match grade accuracy lmao. But when you can get brass for basically the same price...Haven't seen around in a while either. Wasn't bad for plinking ammo. Guess not any more.
Hummmm, that is a puzzler. Still pressure in the chamber when the blowback (as most PCCs are) action allows extraction to begin? There has to be a reason the military never went to aluminum cased ammo; there certainly would be a weight savings in a troopie's usual combat loadout.Back in 2002 academy had blazer 9mm for $2.99/50 and WWB (blazer brass didn't yet exist) for $3.99/50, 33.3% price increase. Now there is only a 14% change.
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That part circled in blue is a tough one to learn sometimes though. Wouldn't shock me to learn that alone isn't a factor, with the rise in popularity of the PCC.
Found a long-ago box of .38spl, from a long closed gun shop. $10.49 @ 50, and, back then, it seemed a fortune. We misered out those shots; there's still 3/4 of the box. Yeah, back then, a buck and a half would have been real money.A buck and a half a box seemed a bigger difference when it was $7.99 and $9.49.
Hummmm, that is a puzzler. Still pressure in the chamber when the blowback (as most PCCs are) action allows extraction to begin? There has to be a reason the military never went to aluminum cased ammo; there certainly would be a weight savings in a troopie's usual combat loadout.
I have not seen that ad for those .38’s. What year is that from, do you know?No, its worse than that.
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Kind of like plastic cases, to save money, been tried for years and failed many times.
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That said, its only been ~134 years since the first electric car was invented and look at how well they are doing now...just have to have the tech to make it happen.
I have not seen that ad for those .38’s. What year is that from, do you know?
Thanks for the info; what I'm seeing in the Camp Carbine is a very tight chamber fit.No, its worse than that.
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Kind of like plastic cases, to save money, been tried for years and failed many times.
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That said, its only been ~134 years since the first electric car was invented and look at how well they are doing now...just have to have the tech to make it happen and we might be there, someday...
Yes when green soylent gets shoved down our throats, lead will be outlawed so we’ll pay through the nose for those scarce copper bullets.What I see coming, when a green future demands amazing amounts of copper, is a shortage of brass for cartridges.
I often thought the same. 5 rounds in a J-frame might not be noticeable, but hold a 15-round 9mm magazine stuffed full of aluminum cases and another with brass and its a significant weight difference.I've said it before, but it would be nice if there was more good defensive .38spl loaded in aluminum cases. A six shot aluminum frame .38 loaded with aluminum cased rounds is just a nicer carry arrangement, and since it's defensive ammo I will most likely never fire, I'm not concerned about reloading the cases.
I would bet that a double stack micro compact would benefit similarly from a load of aluminum cases versus brass, but with an auto you do also have more of a problem with administrative handling taking a toll on the softer cases.
I think even with a lower capacity gun the difference is pretty noticeable. In my Cobra with six shots and an aluminum frame I can definitely tell the difference between brass and aluminum cases. I believe six 90gr critical defense lite weighs more than six 158gr +P Lawman TMJFP in aluminum. I'll have to confirm that.I often thought the same. 5 rounds in a J-frame might not be noticeable, but hold a 15-round 9mm magazine stuffed full of aluminum cases and another with brass and its a significant weight difference.
Be very careful using aluminum cased ammo for self-defense. I found that it can setback much more easily than brass-cased ammo, sometimes showing noticeable setback after being chambered only once. No problem at the range where it's going to get chambered and then fired, but in a self-defense situation, it's not uncommon for a round to be unloaded and then chambered again, sometimes a handful of times.
It is, but not all ammo is created equal. The aluminum cases don't seem to hold the bullet as securely as the brass resulting in more setback much faster than would be seen in brass ammo. You can typically chamber good quality brass self-defense ammo a handful of times before setback is noticeable and even then it's usually minimal when it starts. I've seen aluminum case ammo setback with ONE chambering so much that you could easily look at the round and tell it was shorter than all the other rounds in the box.I feel like the issue of setback is a problem across any self-defense or duty ammunition that may get chambered and unloaded repeatedly though?
I would say that there's an issue with the ammo or the gun if that's happening.When I had a .38 Super 1911, I tried a box of SIG-brand hollow points that would sometimes set-back on the first attempt to chamber.