"Out of the Wild: The Alaska Experiment" - Guns?

liberty calls, i was wondering te same thing. I have my dvr set to record all episodes of this show but it as been a coupel weeks since it recorded one and i was wondering if my dvr messed up.

Jeez, I still use a VCR. Well, I use it maybe 2 times a year when the wife tells me she wants me to record "ER" for her.

On a TV show, perhaps. But, if it's truly survival, bear and wolf need to eat, too, ya know. If it's truly survival, jerked meat don't weigh you down that much. Kill something BIG, eat all you can at camp, jerk what you can carry, and let the bears and wolves have the rest. Forget your ethics when it's survival. Deal is, if there's NINE people in camp to feed, you can go out and waste a week killing rabbits or kill one BIG animal, have everyone pitch in to clean him, build a smoke house, and jerk the meat while some one cooks up back strap and a few round steaks for the night's supper. Once the meat is jerked, you don't need to hunt and can put on several back packing days without worry for food

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Agree. In the area I think their in[they are never very clear on that] the limit on black bear is 3 a year,no closed season,resident or not. In that open country they are easy to spot,and unlike rabbits and birds they have FAT-absolutely necessary for survival.

Are you guys talking more about camping in a survival situation?

My thought and experience has been that if anything hits the fan, take the fastest route out, if you have to camp, or are seriously low on food, kill anything <....> that you would need to sustain yourself.

It's a TV show. Not sure the scenario as I haven't watched much of it, but as I understand it, nothing is hitting any fans and they're given an amount of time to get from point A to point B and given a few tools to survive with. They're all urban morons so I guess that's what makes it interesting, got that "Green Acres" thing going for it. God, now I'll have that theme song in my head the rest of the day, LOL!

Les Stroud, I think it was, said on one of his shows, you'll starve to death if you only eat rabbits, eventually. I mean, they'll get you out of a jam, but they're so lean, the lack of fat isn't good for you long term.

Also, if there are any non-hunters in a groups like this, knowing edible plants of the area can keep them occupied. I would have to study Alaska for edible plants. I'm quite sure they don't have prickly pear up there, LOL, maybe lamb's quarter or dandelion? There are berries up north, too, that won't kill you, seasonal as they may be. Occurs to me that this sort of situation is best tackled as a team and that a good leader with knowledge of the area and woodsman's skills that is acceptable to the group would be necessary. If you have 9 idiots out there arguing, they're all going to starve. Someone with some knowledge would need to take charge.

The idea of trying to preserve a whole moose worth of meat with no salt, no freezer and no facilities is very daunting even if you know what you're doing. I'd want at least fifty pounds of salt (pref. more), a set of very sharp knives , an axe and plenty of fresh clean water. Hard to find in an emergency. Bear is even more scary, with its tendency to go south in a big hurry if you don't get the animal bled and the fat trimmed off post haste. With enough salt and clean water it's all possible, without that, I wouldn't want to risk my stomach!

Still, tt would be cool to see a show with the guts (so to speak) to film and chronicle the butchering of a full size moose. It's a meaty cornucopia.

I'd want the smoke house built before the hunting. Hang the strips soon as they come off the carcass and are pounded. You can jerk meat with minimal salt, I've done it, and it is good for days after. Most of the fat melts away, of course, in jerky. You can make it as dry as you want. Dryer it is, the longer it lasts. Wouldn't have to last that long in this thing, not like it needs to go a whole summer or something, but I'd get it real dry, anyway.

This is what the mountain men did back in the day and they didn't haul 50 lbs of salt with 'em. I don't salt my jerky a lot, use more pepper and such than salt just for the taste and salt to taste. Salt will help the meat dry, but if you pound it flat and hang it for 24 hours in a smoke room, it'll dry nicely. I haven't ever used a smoke HOUSE, just a smoker. LOL I made a few days worth, not a whole gangs worth, but I could scale up in a pinch. It ain't rocket science.

Yeah, you need a good knife or two, sure. Heck, if you got a gun, you're bound to have a knife. You'd need at least a hatchet and preferably an axe, though my Wyoming saw might do, for cutting the timber to build a quicky smoke house. Yes, tools would be necessary.

Bear jerky, well, I don't know, probably like hogs. I don't jerk hogs. But, mostly I worry about parasites in hogs. I like to COOK pork. I'd think bear might be similar, probably want venison or something to jerk, personally, just thinkin' about it.

Of course, if I were in this pack of morons trying to survive and it wasn't a TV show, I'd probably leave 'em to sink or swim and take my chances on my own. ROFL! Trying to feed this bunch of morons might get ME killed. Seriously, they'd be a liability in the wild as dumb as they all seem to be. I might just pick out the best lookin' woman to go with me, though. ROFL Anyone remember a movie, "A Boy and his Dog?"

they just decided to leave their "Bear Gun" - a scoped ".45 caliber" Ruger Single Shot (I am assuming a 45/70) behind in a cabin. Because it's "not good for birds".

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Do you know what part of Alaska their in? I might want to find this gun!!!!!

I'm waiting for an Alaskan Fish & Game guy to show up and arrest them all for hunting without a hunting license or required permits.
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Theres the best reason right there for including fishing kits in all survival kits! Because if you fish without a license, that Fish and Wildlife Commission officer is right behind the bush, and then you're saved!

Theres the best reason right there for including fishing kits in all survival kits! Because if you fish without a license, that Fish and Wildlife Commission officer is right behind the bush, and then you're saved!

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Man, you've got a plan, there.

ROFL Anyone remember a movie, "A Boy and his Dog?"

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When he had her over for dinner in the last scene, he had her for dinner!

Too bad we cant reverse this situation.......~~LOL!!~~

I wish they would drop this Alaskan into downtown LA with a Porche and a suitcase full of $$$ as "Survival Gear" and gimme a month to drag my ass back to the Arctic

I could seriously entertain you.....

Didn't take time to read all of the posts here but I will tell you what I do know. When you go to the bush make sure you carry a heavy rifle. Yes, a .45-70 U.S. Govt. is big enough. Keep a reserve heavy rifle in camp as a backup if you can..Remember this also. The .22LR is well known as the 'workhorse of the North'..Great White Hunter..ADD ON..There's bones scattered all over Alaska (people stumble across a few of them ever now and again) that belonged to people who decided to leave their heavy rifle in camp rather than carry it because they figured they PROBABLY wouldn't need it. To hell with them. I don't feel sorry for the stupid arrogant *******s...You can bury your meat a few feet down and it will keep because you're below the freeze line. I'm tired. You'vd learned a little from me, now go learn a little more from somebody else. That's how you learn..

this show has been around a year or two. I think i saw some of the first season, they had 3 groups of people usually about 2-3 per group. one Father/daughter group who went Moose hunting with a guide but never killed one, they did get a shot at one but missed I would assume they flinched/jerked the trigger lol.

Another group had 3 people and one of those little survival 22lr's. They "hunted" alot but never killed anything. Almost died in a glacier river. The best part was when they found a dead moose and got some meat from it after they fought the crows off (i would have shot them and eat them to) IIRC they only took a few pounds of meat and beat feat in fear of wolves and bears in the area. worst part about there group was they where ALWAYS fighting and very very anti gun the female was afraid of the gun lol

Third group was a husband and wife team i think. They had set up camp really close to a river and it ended up getting flooded out lol so they had to move all there stuff and build a new shelter on higher ground.

I guess it was better than the other reality survial shows like survivor and what ever else is out. They seemed to bitch alot like it was said above though lol.

They had the .45-70 for bear hunting that they could only go after with the guide that came in. When the guide left, they left the gun as well and I think it was a good choice to leave it for that group. Non of them really knew how to hunt big game. Otherwise its a good gun to have in survival situations.

BTW, the last episode was tonight, they skipped a week, so for those of you who set your DVR...check again.

I look forward to another round of this show.

Griz makes the best case for why they left the bar gun. Makes the most sense why they left the gun, and I would agree that they would not have been effective with it. I did find myself rolling my eyes at times during the show, but it was leaps-and-bounds better than any slickly made Survivor type crap.

Just watched one of the Africa ones-not at all the same. No guns-no hunting. The chick is unbelievably irritating-Knows every thing,done this a million times,and acts scared to death when a mouse jumps.

It's not like any of them were in any real danger, just what they brought on them selves. There were camramen around and guides as back up incase of real trouble and they did have there spot emergence transmitors. Its just intertaning tv. Better than most. We can all set around and pick at what they did wrong. Bottom line is other than falling and breaking something no one was going to die from this adventure. Some of them just know that they are a bit stronger than the average person on the streets for doing it. There were lots of small bits of guidence that could be picked up as the show went along that came from someone off camra too. Must have been hell to know the camra crew and guides were eating ok 50 yards away. No one seems to play attention to that .

So what month(s) did they film the show and what, exactly, was in season during that time? No matter how good the legal department of the show is, the Wildlife Dept ain't gonna let them hunt out of season. Maybe they just broke the law. Unless they never "attempted to take" while they were "hunting".

I would take my Marlin 1894 .44 mag. and S&W 629 5" .44 mag. as minimum protection.

A rifle in .30-06 or .308 would also be on my list.

During what i watched i know the day where getting shorter and the temps were getting quit a bit colder. The pro hunter was talk'n about how the bears would be gone farly soon and all the berries would be done . So that would be somewhere in the late fall going into winter as temps were getting into the -double digits at the end. This is like reading bikers talk about that dumb a** bike garage show on tv. Whats bad is it took me 3 shows to deside it was not worth watching again. One all bull sh*t and the other just bull. with the filmcrews and proguides and ems guy's all with the show in the back ground along with the helicopter that seemed to be always close by. Kinda like surviver just in the cold north .

that Africa ones funny ,no gun's ,how much you want to bet that guy caring the spear would throw it away if a loin came along and run leaving the others to fend for them self's lol

Am I foolish to think my Pardner Pump 12ga. would be the "wonder gun" to have in just about any wilderness?

Seems kinda silly to take a bird gun, a bear gun, and a deer gun when you could just bring the one shotgun and an ammo assortment to cover any game you run across.