The Slide Lock Lever

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Whether it is releasing or locking the slide, these are only secondary functions of the part you guys are arguing about.

It's primary function has to do with being the fixed point from which the toggle link pivots the barrel in and out of battery. imo, this part should be named according to its primary mechanical function:
the link pivot shaft.


If the link pivot shaft's slide locking/releasing function fails, the gun will still run.

But if the link pivot shaft breaks or bends such that the toggle link function is impeded or ceases, the gun will not run.
 
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1911/P-35 Highpower/CZ-75/some Ruger's/some S&W's/Etc. Most designs the slide stop is independent of the pistols locking mechanism.
 
Exactly.
You've just named 80% of the semis THR members use.
These all have Link Pivot Shafts.
The rest have Slide Release/Lock Levers.

;)
 
In the interest of semantics, I feel it should be Slide Lock/Release, as it must be locked before it can be released.
 
Not exactly.

If it operates on the browning design short-recoil system, and it has a metal frame, the slide stop pin also performs the function of unlocking the barrel either through a link, or a barrel cam.

Colt calls it a "slide stop".
Browning calls it a "slide stop".
Ruger calls it a "slide stop".
Star & Astra called it a "slide stop".
S&W calls it a "slide stop & pin assembly".

In each of these guns, the pin attached to the slide stop itself operates to pull the barrel down out of lock-up with the slide.

It has to be removed to dissemble the gun.

Other designs like the P-38, Beretta 92, all SIG's, Glock, etc. use a separate locking block in the frame to unlock the barrel, a separate slide stop, and separate take-down lever.

rc
 
The designer gets to say what it's called, and according to the drawings it's a slide stop, the mag release is a magazine catch (I've always called it a magazine release, but not after today!), a revolver is a revolver, not a pistol.

The first two above are design nomenclature, the last one is convention. As far as I'm concerned you all can call them whatever you want, but when people use conventional nomenclature or design nomenclature they cannot be wrong.

I was watching the news today, a guy in a farm supply store in Illinois shot up a bunch of people with an AR15 assault rifle.

I never knew they ever made one, must be a one off or limited manufacture, or, someone is not using the correct nomenclature. That is convention now, most people do not know that a semi automatic rifle without selective fire capability is not an assault rifle (And also usually using an intermediate size round). But in this case design nomenclature tops convention. In the case of revolver/pistol it's a bit muddled, but I'd never call a revolver a pistol, that's like saying "I neither know nor care what things should be called."

Calling things by their proper name is the difference between someone who knows what they are talking about or not.

But then who made me king of the spoken word? :D
 
I was watching the news today, a guy in a farm supply store in Illinois shot up a bunch of people with an AR15 assault rifle.

I never knew they ever made one, must be a one off or limited manufacture, or, someone is not using the correct nomenclature. That is convention now, most people do not know that a semi automatic rifle without selective fire capability is not an assault rifle
The M16/M4 is just the US military designation for the Armalite model 15. All M16's are AR-15's. AR-15's are available with three selector options, safe-semi/safe-semi-triburst/safe-semi-fullauto.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_military_MCWA2F14M4.asp
 
if such is true, they later clarified the models.

Besides, just because it says something on the side...

Ever see a Mustang II Cobra?
 

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Revolver and a pistol are two different items...If you are discussing small arms you have rifles (shoulder arms) and handguns

Revolvers most certainly are pistols. So are single shots, pepper boxes, derringers or any other small arm designed to be fired one-handed.

And technically, rifles and shotguns are also "handguns". "Gun" has historically referred to artillery-sized weapons. That is why "small arms" is used to denote firearms intended for one man operation. Differentiating between handguns and long guns within the scope of small arms is a newer twist.

Saying the M16 is not an AR-15 is like saying the M9 is not a Beretta 92FS.

No, it's like saying the 93R is not a 92 FS. And it isn't.
 
The original full-auto Armalite 5.56mm rifle first used by the Air Force and in Army field trials during the Vietnam war was, and is called an AR-15.

m16.jpg


It was named the M-16 when it was accepted and adopted into the standard naming system of U.S. military issue rifles.
It followed the 7.62mm M-14 and M-15.
The M-15 was a heavy-barrel SAW version of the M-14 that never made it into general use.

Had there not have been one, the M16 would be known as the M15 today.

rc
 
Saying the M16 is not an AR-15 is like saying the M9 is not a Beretta 92FS.

not a good comparison as they function the same.

The M-16 is select fire
the AR15 is not

Unless you are asserting that they are all AR-15's but the M-16 is a sub catagory of AR-15.

Since this is silly semantics thread, that is an acceptable arguement.

Were it a "rubber hits the road" thread it would be wrong
 
argueing with RC is a losing proposition so I will revise my position so as not to be on the opposite side as he.

Perhaps at one time what we know as the M-16 was an AR-15 but such is no longer the case. The M-16 is the term used by the manufacturer to refer to the military select fire. AR-15 is the term used by the manufacturer to refer to the semi auto civilian version.
 
I'm trying to come up with yet one more pointless terminology point to argue over for absolutely no good reason on this planet.

How could it be a point if it's pointless? Should be good for a few posts.
 
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