642 Club Part Deux

Stainz Dreameth

It is the closest thing to a new run of the infamous 'Bloodwork' gun - the cult classic that sells for $2.5k used! I'd sell my 5" JM PC627 V-Comp to get it - but why? Eastwood's character in that movie wasn't known for his marksmanship with that gun - a then short run as the 'UDR' (Ultimate Defensive Revolver). I think I already have the 'UDR' - my 642! Still, I want that snubby 627.

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A couple of my favorites too!! Slobbering Love Affair.

Does anyone know if anyone is still selling the no lock x42's? If so a link would be much appreciated.

I don't know about a link, but I still see both new in the box at local gun shows. The "no lock" models are quite a bit higher. My model has the lock on it although I never used it.

Mike PGS

Here you go. No lock 642-1 Plus P rated.

Does anyone know if anyone is still selling the no lock x42's? If so a link would be much appreciated

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You can deal with Robertson's Trading Post with confidence. These guys have beek around a long, long time and are completely trustworthy and their prices are very fair as are their shipping prices. Looks like they have three actually. Go to Guns America, sign up, search, plenty to be had.

http://www.gunsamerica.com/99775682...642_1_No_Lock_Airweight_Centennial_SS_NI.htm#

Here's another

http://www.gunsamerica.com/96037829..._Airweight_w_out_Lock_38_Special_P_cal_NE.htm

Thanks, 5-SHOTS. The owner wants $450. Excellent condition, only 5 rounds fired, has the original leather box, master lock and white cardboard outer box. Im thinking of snapping it up before somone else gets it. I had wanted a hammerless Centennial style gun, but what the heck.

“Don't take it personally as certainly none was intended. I would have put forth the same commentary to any contributor. We are happy to have you here and welcome your input, right or wrong.”
Thanks DAdams, I really appreciate this.

““It’s OK to shot +P in your gun even if it is not stamped on the barrel”. Please post a link that points the way to the S&W website where this is stated.”
I’ve just reported what other folks have experienced. If they reported lies, I report lies. But if they reported the truth, I report the truth.

“I wonder if perhaps S&W was speaking of early x42-1s which WERE +P rated, but were not stamped as such on the barrel.”
Yes, this is an example. So it is a generic warning not a general warning.

Since they are generic, most ammo warnings didn’t cover all the real world cases. They do negatively aswer the question “Can I shot .38 Super Auto +P in a 9mm Steyr pistol?”. But also our common sense is certainly going to aswer NO to the same question.
To all appearances they (the warnings) also negatively answers the question “Can I shot 9mm +P in a CZ 75 P-01 since it doesn’t have the +P mark on it?”. But this pistol was able to shot 30000 +P rounds during NATO tests without any problem (minimum request was 15000)…
So, where is the truth?

“Better yet I would like to see a statement of fact veryifing it (the approved use of non-rated ammunition) published by an Officer of said Corporation or their Legal Department.”
Well, this is certainly hard to obtain…

“5-Shots, why don't you start a related thread in a General Handgun Area or Handguns, Revolvers on THR, I would like to see the responses as I have heard that there are revolvers that can tolerate a limited diet of "non-rated" ammunition.”
You can do it yourself if you are really interested. I’ve already do my searches.


Some more considerations:
1)Many folks choose to practice with standard loads and carry (carry,not shot as I said in my original statement) +P rounds in their (supposed) not +P rated snubs. If a (supposed) not +P rated snub is not able to fire five +P rounds when needed, well don’t put 50 Buffalo Bore max SAAMI out of it at the range because that it can be really dangeruos!

2)Many folks choose to practice most of the time with standard loads with their (supposed) not +P snubs and they put only a couple of cylinder each range session using their +P carry loads just to stay proficient. That sounds reasonable to me if they deeply inspect the gun before and after every range session and/or if they send their snub back to the factory periodically for a complete ceckup.

3)The other folks use only standard loads out their (supposed) not +P rated snubs. Very good choice but don’t forget to inspect your gun if you shot a lot.

4)Police agents carried +P or +P+ loads on their revolvers well before we knew that +P or +P+ rated ammunitions/revolvers exist with no ill effects than those on bad guys.

5)If you are sure that your (supposed) +P rated snubs are that safe go to this site (TFL): http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246739. Anyway, not a catastrophic failure.

DAdams, I don’t really want to “win” that thread with you. We are not in a court. I’m just defending my good reputation in a public forum.


Best regards, 5-SHOTS.

joe, if I were you I'll take it for sure. And please, don't forget to post some pics if you purchase it! Best regards.

UDR

Dadams
Is the udr a n frame? I do not know about this revolver. looks a bit heavy.
might be fun to have a play date with.

627 Frame Size

Yes, N Frame:

However, the eight-shot Model 627 Smith & Wesson revolver seen in the latest Clint Eastwood film, Blood Work..... The particular model used in that film sports a 25⁄8-inch barrel, an unfluted cylinder and is available from the Performance Center solely through a marketing arrangement with Lew Horton Distributing.

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Most people mentally associate N-frame Smith & Wessons with .44s--first the .44 Special and then the awesomely powerful .44 Magnum. However, in truth, .44s were a minority among N-frames. Far more were produced as .45 ACP or .38/.357 caliber. And let's not forget the many thousands made in .41 Mag since its inception in 1964. More than a handful of N-frames have been made for what could be considered odd-ball cartridges by mainstream shooters. Those would be .38-40 and .44-40. The British government bought well over 70,000 N-frames (Hand Ejector 1st & 2nd Models) chambered for their puny .455 Webley cartridge during WWI.

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You can see today's version on the S&W website. At 1200 list price.

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/...selected=tech&isFirearm=Y&parent_category_rn=

Jim Watson critically injured

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Many of you 642 Clubbers know THR member Jim Watson quite well for is well reasoned, informative posts.

I just now noticed the sticky at the top of the "General Gun Discussions" forum. I don't go in there often, so I didn't see it until today.

Jim Watson was critically injured when a drunk driver plowed into his home, rupturing a gas line which ignited a fire, destroying his home . He's in rough shape, and could certainly use our prayers. Gift donations are also being accepted; info is provided in the thread below...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=502136

Has anybody used a clipgrip? the metal clip mounted on the side of there gun. I want to know if there good or don't spend the money. I think they go by another name also.

Got my M642 as a Christmas present from the family. Shot about 50 rounds through it and did not like the OEM grips that came with it, so, I took the "combat grips" that came on my M60 and cut/ground the bottoms off the grips so that they are even with the bottom of the 642 frame. Holy moley! That ~1/8 inch more grip over the backstrap makes shooting the 642 an almost-orgasmic event!! With the factory tuned action and the slightly larger grips, I can rapid-fire dump all five rounds in a teacup size group at 30-35 feet.

Holy moley! That ~1/8 inch more grip over the backstrap makes shooting the 642 an almost-orgasmic event!! With the factory tuned action and the slightly larger grips, I can rapid-fire dump all five rounds in a teacup size group at 30-35 feet.

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Your family must be happy that such a gift can elicit such an event.

It is indeed amazing what getting a new grip can do in assisting the dumping of the load.

That's why I really like the CT 405s and Hogue Monogrips. BTW OldCav you Sir may not have a set of Hogue Monogrips fore I fear you may enter a state of spiritual bliss heretofore not known by earthly shooters and succumb.

Hello Alll,

I bought a 642 three weeks ago, and I love it. Earlier this evening I was searching google trying to figure out what to use on the front of the cylinder to get it clean, and ran across the original 642 club thread, then this thread.....well after about 3.5 hours of reading, I decided that I had to join THR and become a part of the 642 club.

Thanks to all for the vast amount of information. I have thoroughly enjoyed reading y'alls expertise.

Now back to the original question....is there a way to get the front of the cylinder clean? Ive noticed that all three times ive shot my 642 the front of the cylinder gets pretty dirty, and so does the area around where the barrel and frame meet up. I used Hoppes gun solvent and a toothbrush for the barrel/frame area, but it didnt work for the cylinder.

is there a way to get the front of the cylinder clean? Ive noticed that all three times ive shot my 642 the front of the cylinder gets pretty dirty, and so does the area around where the barrel and frame meet up.

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I use a little carb cleaner to spray out the loose grime. The I use Break-Free for final cleaning and lube. An old tooth brush gets in it easily. Cleaned mine right up after shooting 2 boxes of cartridges.

Good Luck and welcome to THR!

Welcome JAguirre

You sir are a glutton for punishment, I & II. Good job and welcome to the group.

what to use on the front of the cylinder to get it clean

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http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=Kleen+bore+cloths&aq=f&aqi=&oq=

Kleen-Bore Cloths. Use them only on the front of the cylinder to get rid of "racoon eyes". It still takes a bunch of twisting an turning to get it off completely but with diligence it will come off. I only get ambitious occassionally now.

Member of a club and didn’t know it. Mine’s my carry and it’s always loaded and ready.



Jackie

Milkmaster and DAdams, thanks for the info...the "raccoon eyes" are exactly what I'm talking about. My 642 will be my primary carry (CHL should be here in about 3 weeks), but I will be shooting it 2-3 times monthly. Am I fighting a loosing battle by trying to clean the "racoon eyes" every time I go to the range? I've always been particular about keeping my guns clean, and as far as I can tell, the "raccoon eyes" will not effect the reliability of the pistol at all.

I know that eventually the pistol will get some finish wear from my holster, but I do like to keep my guns looking nice. With that being said, I do understand that they are tools and will possibly get beat up a little. So for those of you with thousands of rounds downrange in the 642...what should I think about the "raccoon eyes"?

Welcome to Ky and JA.
(We've got a "JT", now a JA.)

That ~1/8 inch more grip over the backstrap makes shooting the 642 an almost-orgasmic event!!

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As you will learn if you read far enough back, I long ago replaced my stock grips with full Hogue Monogrips. I've never looked back, even though I still stop short of calling the experience "orgasmic". Maybe I'm holding it wrong.

Thumb buster

Every time I take my 642 to the range I rub a patch of skin off of my thumb with the cylinder release. If I'm lucky I remember to bring a bandaid or my range session is cut short due to the irritation with each shot. :banghead:

Has anyone heard of a remedy for this? Maybe an aftermarket latch or modification to the original?

I see that both the 642 and 442 without the lock are current S&W catalog items. Just do a search for "no lock" on S&W's web site and both come up. Any S&W dealer should be able to order you one. I've also seen a few of each for sale on Gunbroker.com.

I haven't bought a new S&W since they put the lock on, but I'm thinking that might change soon!

I've been using Iosso GunBrite for years to clean the fouling off the front of the my revolver cylinders, but only on stainless guns. 15 minutes with a small dab on a cotton patch and the front of your cylinder will look like the gun has never been fired. Some of it will be forced into the area around the extractor yoke, but a quick blast with solvent removes any remaining residue.

I found mine at Walmart, but it's also available at MidwayUSA if you're interested.

Welcome to all the new club members!

Nem - Looks like you got screwed royal...your gun's got two locks?

Maybe it's the new lefty model...Dunno...


rd

Nem - Looks like you got screwed royal...your gun's got two locks?

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Custom made, RD. I wanted extra protection.

(Actually, I wanted that image to point in the other direction for reasons not relevant here,
so I used my little photo processing program to reverse it.
Makes for fun discussion though, obviously.)

I do so love this forum, many thanks to the creator. I stumbled onto THR and ordered a no-lock 642 with the recommended goodies that one must have. Am currently trying to fill a drawer with holsters I may seldom use, but must have. DAdams, Nematocyst and others I thank you for your informative posts. Well back to lurking in the obscure shadows. Steve