Steve 48
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I have a P3AT and feel protected as long as it is a close encounter. My M60 in 357 is much more assuring!!!
.357 will get the job done well.I have a P3AT and feel protected as long as it is a close encounter. My M60 in 357 is much more assuring!!!
Cheaper and more available than what?I go for the 9 mm Makarov. AMmo is much cheaper and more available.
Yes but not the selection of quality self defense ammo available in 380.I go for the 9 mm Makarov. AMmo is much cheaper and more available.
Corbon is great ammo. Is MagSafe and Corbon related somehow or made by same Company?today with the better variety of modern ammo that is available, like Corbon, and Speer gold dot, and others, the 380ACP will deliver adequate velocity and , penetration and expansion. I carry the 38 special +P but would feel fine with a 380 with Gold dots.
Does the .380 really have enough stopping power?
If the .380 or the .32 were really powerful enough then they would be the caliber of choice for cops and soldiers.As for the 380 not being powerful enough; that is also pure B.S. I even carry my 32acp walther, because I trust it too.
All that would prove is that folks don't like pain and expensive trips to the emergency room to get some stitches and antibiotics.Ask them if they'll stand about 10-20 feet away from you, wearing all the clothes/coats that they want, and let you shoot them with a 32acp or 380acp. I really doubt that you'll get ANY volunteers.
.32 has been the choice for many european countries in the past.If the .380 or the .32 were really powerful enough then they would be the caliber of choice for cops and soldiers.
Other than a physical disability that limits one's ability to control a larger caliber handgun, I can see no reason to carry a .380 or a .32.
All that would prove is that folks don't like pain and expensive trips to the emergency room to get some stitches and antibiotics.
No matter how badly some folks want the .380 to be a good self-defense caliber, it's just not.
I doubt that anyone would volunteer to let me stick a fishing hook in to their chest, but that doesn't make a fishing hook a great self defense weapon.
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Does the .380 really have enough stopping power?
There are many doubts about 9mm not stopping adversaries which is why police now use the .40 cal.380 doesn't give me enough confidence in it's ability to stop an attacker if vital organs are missed. especially if the attacker is on high on drugs.
the smallest i would carry is +P+ 9mm jhp's.
There are many doubts about 9mm not stopping adversaries which is why police now use the .40 cal.
Here's the problem with this "data":Well easyg; considering the FBI report of 2004 showing police officers feloniously killed; http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/killed/2004/table34.htm only 4 other calibers caused more police deaths than the 380. So I'd say that the 380 is quite capable of defending a person. Then again, more police were killed by a 22lr than a 357 magnum, so that must not be deadly either. So you can mention the inconvenience of getting stitches and antibiotics all you want. It simply shows that you don't know what you're talking about.
Where did you get this notion?And even though easyg doesn't admit it, the 32acp in fact happened to be one of the most popular civilian and military calibers in Europe.
Or option #4:And if you can keep your composure and are willing to shoot the attacker if necessary, you will eliminate the threat. Either they leave, they go down, or you are able to run away. All 3 options are acceptable.