Newly aquired CZ82
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No doubt.....For open carry it's great! Not so much so for concealment but I do use the mag holster concealed. That's some seriously heavy duty leather work isn't it?.....I don't think you could wear that holster out in 3 life times. lol
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Yeah that leather is definitely made to last. I don't think you could wear it out no matter what you did.
I don't think you could wear it out no matter what you did.dovedescending
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@Shadow 7D, I'm curious to know how one would go about using the BBQ Paint or Tester's Enamel to touch up the original black finish. Any recommended brands? Technique? Dire warnings of peril?
harmon rabb:
Years ago when it was still coming in, a friend and I bought two 1000-rd cases of Russian 9mm Mak ammo. We both had Makarov pistols, mine is an E.G., his was a Russian or Bulgy, can't recall.
I still have about half of that case and the CZ 82 loves it. In fact, I don't even shoot the E.G. Mak anymore. I treated it as a collector. The Russian FMJ stuff is what the one mag is loaded with in the first pic in my initial post.
Later, I picked about 500rds of something surplus that was still around on a table at a funshow (Chinese, I think) and shot that up in the CZ. Again, this was a few years back. I also reload the 9mm Mak, which saves on burning through the surplus.
What I'd really love to get are a couple of cases of Czech-made 9mmMak ammo, as it is claimed to be the hottest Mak load produced in Europe (whether military or commercial), supposedly developed for use in these very model 82 pistols. Maybe the Czech military used a special powder or hybrid?
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Paint, do the usual prep (sand down the paint so create a smooth surface, plug and cover etc.) and then apply paint to the best of your abilities.
I acutally used KG GunKote, you can buy it directly, or you can get from Midwayusa. I first sandblasted it, but I used 80 grt slag, I think it cuts way too much and the only thing that saved me was that I have a crappy setup....
I have seen some awesome bead blasted finishes, Anyway I ended up with a lot rougher than many, used K phos, then with an airbrush touch up kit from the auto parts store ($12) I painted it, then I used my 'easy bake' (as my wife calls it) toaster oven from good will ($8) and then a few short week later of struggling to get that damn sear spring right, I had a real nice gun.
I acutally used KG GunKote, you can buy it directly, or you can get from Midwayusa. I first sandblasted it, but I used 80 grt slag, I think it cuts way too much and the only thing that saved me was that I have a crappy setup....
I have seen some awesome bead blasted finishes, Anyway I ended up with a lot rougher than many, used K phos, then with an airbrush touch up kit from the auto parts store ($12) I painted it, then I used my 'easy bake' (as my wife calls it) toaster oven from good will ($8) and then a few short week later of struggling to get that damn sear spring right, I had a real nice gun.
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What's involved in sending an 82 to CZUSA?
I failed at getting slide stop springs installed properly. My smith charged me $70 and his fix did not work either.
The slide is locking back every shot. When it does operate correctly the hammer follows.
I'm ready for CZ to work on it.
I failed at getting slide stop springs installed properly. My smith charged me $70 and his fix did not work either.
The slide is locking back every shot. When it does operate correctly the hammer follows.
I'm ready for CZ to work on it.
Shadow 7D
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look up CZusa and call them, they have a techsupport/GS number.
I have never actually see that stuff in the USA. S&B is real good and plenty hot for those little blow back pistols. I am concerned that the Buffalo Bore stuff would make 40 year old brittle steel a Blow Up Pistol.harmon rabb:
Years ago when it was still coming in, a friend and I bought two 1000-rd cases of Russian 9mm Mak ammo. We both had Makarov pistols, mine is an E.G., his was a Russian or Bulgy, can't recall.
I still have about half of that case and the CZ 82 loves it. In fact, I don't even shoot the E.G. Mak anymore. I treated it as a collector. The Russian FMJ stuff is what the one mag is loaded with in the first pic in my initial post.
Later, I picked about 500rds of something surplus that was still around on a table at a funshow (Chinese, I think) and shot that up in the CZ. Again, this was a few years back. I also reload the 9mm Mak, which saves on burning through the surplus.
What I'd really love to get are a couple of cases of Czech-made 9mmMak ammo, as it is claimed to be the hottest Mak load produced in Europe (whether military or commercial), supposedly developed for use in these very model 82 pistols. Maybe the Czech military used a special powder or hybrid?
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Wow, I need to post more often. What a great batch of replies and good old gun talk.
I had to take the CZ apart tonight and clean up, mostly for an excuse to handle a gun. Man, nice feel. The machining is first rate. I like my Yugo 57, and maybe the edges will wear off with use, but it surely isn't as smooth as this CZ.
Bullets have come in. I may have to take it out on Saturday to see if it's the tack driver everyone says. If I allow enough time, I can shoot pretty good. If I shoot great, it's because of the gun!
I had to take the CZ apart tonight and clean up, mostly for an excuse to handle a gun. Man, nice feel. The machining is first rate. I like my Yugo 57, and maybe the edges will wear off with use, but it surely isn't as smooth as this CZ.
Bullets have come in. I may have to take it out on Saturday to see if it's the tack driver everyone says. If I allow enough time, I can shoot pretty good. If I shoot great, it's because of the gun!
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Oh and a fun fact is that the 82 was designed for a hotter round than standard mak, actually it is THE round for it and why it's not traditionally rifled, as the round is a sintered iron (and banned as a 'ap' round 
) So BB or other 'hot' ammo is fine
) So BB or other 'hot' ammo is fineShadow 7D
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S&B is great stuff
BUT
vz. 82 ammunition, is not Mak, it is designed for the 82 and pushes the bullet quite a bit faster than standard, something like a 63grn at 1200+FPS, I had the site somewhere, it's interesting and you will NEVER EVER SEE IT IN THE US cause it is Sintered IRON, ie AP
but if you run into a Czech army guy overseas, maybe you can bum some off of him. BTW, the S&B is MAK, and may be hot mak, but that doesn't compare to the real stuff.
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vz. 82 ammunition, is not Mak, it is designed for the 82 and pushes the bullet quite a bit faster than standard, something like a 63grn at 1200+FPS, I had the site somewhere, it's interesting and you will NEVER EVER SEE IT IN THE US cause it is Sintered IRON, ie AP
but if you run into a Czech army guy overseas, maybe you can bum some off of him. BTW, the S&B is MAK, and may be hot mak, but that doesn't compare to the real stuff.
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I used my lunch for something better than eating and took the CZ out. It's a smooth, but a fairly long pull on SA.
For the first time shooting it, I am pleased with where the bullets hit the target. It does like to come back on target quickly, a natural pointer for me. In a pinch I think I could hit a bad guy pretty easily.
For the first time shooting it, I am pleased with where the bullets hit the target. It does like to come back on target quickly, a natural pointer for me. In a pinch I think I could hit a bad guy pretty easily.
I do believe that the VZ 82, 9x18 Mak cartridge chambered pistol is no longer a Military or Police pistol and that is why they are now called Mil Surplus and even added to the Curio and Relic list removing them form even being classified as a firearm.
If you run into a "Czech Army" guy he will be armed with 9 x19 NATO rounds only. That so called hot round was manufactured by Seller& Bellot and known as the 9x18mm Ultra or 9x18mm Police ammunition is not compatible with the Makarov or Makarov chambered pistols, although they have the same 9x18mm designation. The 9 mm Makarov round is 9.25 mm as compared with the 9 mm Ultra's 9 mm and the 9mm Police's 9.02 mm.
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long SA pull? the SA pull of my cz-82 is very short. it feels like my sig 226 in SA... only smoother and lighter.
Just wait until you try a polished out Mak PM. From Russia with Love!
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Tell that to the Czech liason officer I befriended in Afghanistan last year who let me examine the CZ-82 he carried. He gave me a couple boxes of the 9x18 S&B ammo (sintered steel) he carried for me to use in the Khyber Pass Makarov I kept with me. I never did shoot any of that stuff and I couldn't send it home to play with either.
But yes, the Czech Army does still use 9x18.
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American manufaturers of 9x18 include CCI, American Federal Eagle, Glaser (CorBon), Stars and Stipes, D&G Reloading, Georgia Arms, Kinematics Research, Quality Cartridge, RBCD, and Reeds.
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Wow, I never knew that. Learn something new every day. I have never seen CCI or Federal Eagle just Winchester that was a S&B repack. Are you the same North Bender from the Mak Forums? If you are I am glad to meet you.
I have shot a fair amount of Brown Bear and Silver Bear 9x18 and shy away from Wolf at Norm Sutton's advise.
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What's wrong with wolf? My cz-82 has seen a ton of wolf without complaint
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