what does "tighter" matter on a fighting handgun? especially one that is the size and in the "niche" of the above mentioned handguns? This is not a debate on the tightness vs reliability of 1911's here that are going to be used for defense vs competition and or both. I think in the context of both of these handguns mentioned by the op "tighter/ tightness" should be of little concern. If anything you would want a fighting tool to be "looser" would you not? unless of course you are going to do bullseye shooting at 25-50yds. then again who would be using a kahr or kel tec of any kind for that?
If you want a looser gun, go for it. I spelled out what the extra money gets you, but notice I said that people have to decide for themselves if it's worth it or not. Obviously it isn't to you, but I prefer a solid gun that doesn't rattle and flop around. This could be the AK vs M16 debate, same deal. Loose tolerances vs close tolerances.
better materials? what better materials? how are they better?
The barrel steel is very high quality with very tight tolerances on the machining. The slides are 416 grade stainless steel. Metal tiggers and other firing control components. Hell, even the polymer just has a better feel to it IMO. Again, there's nothing wrong with the Kel-Tec, it's perfectly functional. If you don't want the extras the Kahr gets you, don't buy it.
Much better trigger? How much better and in what way is it better? Trigger pull weight, reset, etc? Funny how Kahr doesn't list the trigger pull on their website......
You said you owned a Kahr, so I'm surprised you're arguing this one. The Kahr trigger is 7-7.5 lb and it's the smoothest DAO pull in the sub compact market by FAR. This isn't even close betwee the Kel-Tec and the Kahr. I wish the reset was better, but that smooth pull is so nice, it's worth it.
The only thing close to "materials" that I have been able to find on the Kahr page has to do with their CNC process.......
Which is funny because KEl-TEC CNC inc. is the name of the company (kel-tec), so the fact that kahr uses CNC must not be what is meant......
Yes, when they say they use CNC that is exactly what they mean. CNC is a generic term meaning computer numerical control, where you feed design information into a computer and the computer controls the machine that is making the part. It's certainly not exlucive to Kel-Tec.
possum, I don't understand it, but you seem to have taken my commments personally. If you prefer the Kel-Tec, that's fine! I can completely understand that the Kahr isn't worth the extra money for some people. That's why there are so many choices on the market, buy what you like.