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... Why does my hornady reloading handbook of recent publication list different max and starting charges for them?
In March 2006, Hodgdon Powder Company and Winchester® Ammunition announced that Winchester® branded reloading powders would be licensed to Hodgdon.
9mm - 125 GR. SIE FMJ Winchester 231 Start 4.4 gr (1009 fps) 24,600 CUP - Max 4.8 gr (1088 fps) 28,800 CUP
9mm - 125 GR. SIE FMJ Hodgdon HP-38 Start 4.4 gr (1009 fps) 24,600 CUP - Max 4.8 gr (1088 fps) 28,800 CUP
40S&W - 165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester 231 Start 4.8 gr (946 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1001 fps) 32,500 PSI
40S&W - 165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon HP-38 Start 4.8 gr (946 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1001 fps) 32,500 PSI
45ACP - 200 GR. CAST LSWC Winchester 231 Start 4.4 gr (771 fps) 11,000 CUP - Max 5.6 gr (914 fps) 16,900 CUP
45ACP - 200 GR. CAST LSWC Hodgdon HP-38 Start 4.4 gr (771 fps) 11,000 CUP - Max 5.6 gr (914 fps) 16,900 CUP
165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon Clays .400" 1.125" 3.5 851 29,900 PSI - 3.9 897 33,300 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon Titegroup .400" 1.125" 4.6 961 27,000 PSI - 5.1 1047 33,600 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester WST .400" 1.125" 4.5 916 26,400 PSI - 5.1 995 33,300 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester 231 .400" 1.125" 4.8 946 28,100 PSI - 5.3 1001 32,500 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon HP-38 .400" 1.125" 4.8 946 28,100 PSI - 5.3 1001 32,500 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon Universal .400" 1.125" 5.1 976 26,800 PSI - 5.6 1061 32,900 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester WSF .400" 1.125" 6.3 1055 28,100 PSI - 6.7 1115 32,700 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Hodgdon HS-6 .400" 1.125" 7.3 1013 28,700 PSI - 8.0 1098 32,700 PSI
165 GR. SIE JHP Winchester AutoComp .400" 1.125" 6.5 1037 25,600 PSI - 7.1 1124 31,500 PSI
I have been testing AutoComp in 40S&W as it produces the highest velocities at much lower chamber pressures (AutoComp's start velocity is comparable to Titegroup's max velocity but at much lower chamber pressure - 33.6K PSI vs 25.6K PSI ). If you have pressure concerns for the "higher pressure" 40S&W reloads, you might want to checkout AutoComp.GP100man said:Marketing ploy !! everybody will opt for the "faster" fps powder ,but if ya research a bit tou`ll find the 1 with the heavy max is the fastest .
I saved the message when I emailed them. I agree with Randy, Don't take our word for it Hodgdon will answer your email promptly with something like this.There is no "if' they are the same - they ARE the same powder, simply poured into different containers.
You should absolutely NOT take my word for it, the good folks at Hodgdon will answer your e-mail to them with that response.... just like they did when I e-mailed them and asked. I don't have the list handy but there are a few HP/Win powder pairs that also are the same powder/different container.