USAF_Vet
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Not sure where to put this, so I'll post it here.
I went to a piece of public land this morning that has an abandoned DNR firing range. I like it is because it is out of the way and not used by too many people. On this occasion, there is another gentleman there, and based on the pile of shells at his feet, he has been there for some time.
I set up to do a quick sight in for the scope I mounted on my AR, and was kinda surprised to see what this guy was shooting.
At first glace, it looked like a PGO Short barrel shotgun, like a Serbu Super Shorty. But this is Michigan, and AOWs, SBSs and SBRs are still outlawed.
So I asked his what it was he was shooting, just to satisfy my curiosity and to see if I was shooting next to a guy who was in possession of a ticket to Club Fed.
TL;DR
It was a factory PGO Mossberg 500 in .410. He added a rifled barrel and cut it down to something near 8", cut down the mag tube, fore end and action rails to match. He claimed it was legal because a PGO shotgun is not a shotgun at all, but an 'Other Weapon' so therefore it could not be designated a Short Barrel Shotgun. Because it had the rifled barrel, it was not a smooth bore pistol, and therefore not an AOW. He said legally, it meets the criteria for a pistol, and never met the criteria for a shotgun or an AOW. Seems legit, but part of me still wonders about the legality of such a thing. I am pretty sure one of the criteria for a pistol is that it fires fixed ammunition other than shotgun shells, and the reason the Judge gets away with shooting .410 is because it's chambered for .45LC and also happens, by default, to fire .410 shells.
So, I ask my fellow High Roaders, legal or not legal?
I went to a piece of public land this morning that has an abandoned DNR firing range. I like it is because it is out of the way and not used by too many people. On this occasion, there is another gentleman there, and based on the pile of shells at his feet, he has been there for some time.
I set up to do a quick sight in for the scope I mounted on my AR, and was kinda surprised to see what this guy was shooting.
At first glace, it looked like a PGO Short barrel shotgun, like a Serbu Super Shorty. But this is Michigan, and AOWs, SBSs and SBRs are still outlawed.
So I asked his what it was he was shooting, just to satisfy my curiosity and to see if I was shooting next to a guy who was in possession of a ticket to Club Fed.
TL;DR
It was a factory PGO Mossberg 500 in .410. He added a rifled barrel and cut it down to something near 8", cut down the mag tube, fore end and action rails to match. He claimed it was legal because a PGO shotgun is not a shotgun at all, but an 'Other Weapon' so therefore it could not be designated a Short Barrel Shotgun. Because it had the rifled barrel, it was not a smooth bore pistol, and therefore not an AOW. He said legally, it meets the criteria for a pistol, and never met the criteria for a shotgun or an AOW. Seems legit, but part of me still wonders about the legality of such a thing. I am pretty sure one of the criteria for a pistol is that it fires fixed ammunition other than shotgun shells, and the reason the Judge gets away with shooting .410 is because it's chambered for .45LC and also happens, by default, to fire .410 shells.
So, I ask my fellow High Roaders, legal or not legal?