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Hi everyone.

I recently went to visit my grandfather. We went shooting, and he had a gun I really liked, but I can't seem to find it on sig's website.

The box said that it was a p220, but the 220's on the website don't look anything like it. The gun had wooden grips, and the back of the slide was rounded out. It was blued, and in 45 acp. It was a single stack, and I want to say that it was an 8 + 1.

I can't figure out exactly what it was. It could be an older model. I think he said he's had it since the eighties.

This is the first automatic that I've ever really liked. At seven yards my first two shots were in the 8 ring, and my next three were in the bulls eye. It was crazy!

So, anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance!
 
That's what the box said it was, but the p220 on Sig's website doesn't look like it. The one I was shooting had a rounded slide. I can't find any p220's with rounded slides.
 
Now, I'm confused, because all SIG 220s have rounded slides.

For example here are two 220s which are very different. One has an alloy frame while the other is stainless steel; one has a railed dust cover while the other doesn't; one is manufactures in Germany, the other domestically...and yet they both have rounded slides. The blued one might be a bit more rounded as it's slide has had all it's edges beveled

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ricebasher302, 9mmepiphany - When I say "rounded out, I mean it was more round than square. The pictures 9mm posted look more square than the one I held. It looked a little like the slide of the p210 (same roundness, but without the hump in the back), but it was definitely a 220. Also, the gun was purchased used in the early nineties, and the box was blue cardboard, if that helps.
 
We must have a different definition of roundness, because I think of the back of the slides of a SIG 210 as flat

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As for mine, I don't think you could get more rounded that this

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Come to think of it, the only pistols I know with flat slides are the Glock and the M&P
 
9mm: I guess so. Sorry, I usually spend my time in the wheelgun section, haha. Those grips in the first picture look awfully familiar though...

MikeJackmin: Yes! That looks more like it! My grand dad's was blued though.

I'll call and have him send me a picture so I don't confuse myself any further.
 
Ah, the SAS (SIG Anti Snag), applied to the 220 Compact

It hadn't occurred to me that he meant rounded vertically...I thought he meant rounded laterally, because that is what SIGs are known for.

Yes, the SAS models have had the edges of their slides rounded off...the preferred term is melted, as a more radical form of beveling

So like this:

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Did your grandfather's rounded slide look like this? The difference from 9mmepiphany's guns is there is no visible ridge line on the rear top of the slide. And did it have the pointed hammer spur? This is my '77 9mm P220, but I believe all of the pre-1993 P220s had the same slide and hammer. Some time in 1993 SIG went with a reinforced frame and rounded hammer spur. I also think the wood grips are aftermarket, or at least not the standard SIG grips that would normally come with the gun. Of course there is no accessory rail on these guns. All of these German-made P220s have stamped carbon steel slides, unlike the current ones on the SIG website with milled stainless steel ones, which may also account for the difference you see.

I am guessing your grandfather's gun is just a standard German-made '80s .45 P220 with SIG, or aftermarket, wood grips. Back then SIG didn't have all of the different versions like Elites, Equinox, and Combats like they do now.

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Update: Haven't been able to get a picture yet, but I did remember something else. The gun I shot didn't seem to have as many switches hanging off of it as the modern p220's have. I don't think it had a safety, but I could be wrong.
 
It can't be a P232 because guitarguy314 said it was a .45.

I don't believe it is a P220 DAK SAS because they did not exist back then, as I recall, if the gun really is from the '80s, although it still could be a DAO version so it would not have a decocker.

guitarguy314, did the gun have a European heel mag release instead of the American button? Is that one of the "switches" that may be missing? Also, if you see the gun again, check the front bottom chin of the slide for proof marks, and tell us what the two letter date code is ("Jx" ?)so we can get an idea of the year of manufacture. Tell us who the importer is, too. I am guessing it is either Hawes, Interarms, or Sigarms in either Tysons Corner or Herndon, VA.
 
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