LGBT community support for the RKBA?

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Does anyone have any good sources for information on attitudes of members of the LGBT community have toward the RKBA? Anybody have an opinion on attitudes based on talking with members of the LGBT community. Anybody on THR who is a member of the LGBT community want to comment on attitudes about the RKBA?
 
Thank you Hypnogator! That is exactly the type of information I am looking for. It also is good news to see that such support for the RKBA is significant.
 
I know two members of the LGBT community who are married - one is currently purchasing a firearm as a birthday present for the other.
 
I've had several clients who I've taught to shoot handguns

They are large supporters of RKBA, not so much because they feel a need to defend themselves, but because they consider it a pro-choice and libertarian issue...a sense of self-detetrmination
 
A (male) coworker's husband is big into guns, and a female couple I know have been asking for me to take them shooting, so yes there is some interest and support for RKBA from LGTB. The important thing to remember is they want to be treated like you would any straight couple and be accepted without prejudice. Unfortunatly, both LGTB and RKBA have become politically charged issues with support primarily coming from opposite ends of the spectrum.
 
I'd like to ask a "Part 2" question, which is "Do they VOTE pro gun or do other issues outweigh the gun issues for them, for which they might ultimately vote for anti-gun representation in government?"
 
I'd like to ask a "Part 2" question, which is "Do they VOTE pro gun or do other issues outweigh the gun issues for them, for which they might ultimately vote for anti-gun representation in government?"
That would be a very personal question for each individual involved. Many gay people feel they have to vote a certain way because a fundamental aspect of their own person-hood is threatened by the public statements and policies of a specific wing of our political system. There's not much we could say to them to argue against that perception. And resenting or denigrating them for having to make that choice is really stupid of us. Everyone has their priorities, and if the very basis of who you feel you are is condemned and constrained by a politician (or group of them) there'd be no way in hades you'd ever vote for them ... nor should you.

What we CAN do is try to spread the good news of RKBA among them and their peers so that they go out and work to undermine the BS that their friends have been fed by one wing of our political system about guns and gun rights. It certainly won't happen overnight, but withering away support for gun control among traditionally "left" leaning voters can't possibly hurt us!

And we can stand up to "our own" side of the political spectrum and tell them to knock off the BS that so threatens and alienates our LGBT friends and keeps them voting against us. It won't happen overnight, but withering away distracting and dead-ended social "noise" issues from the traditional "right" leaning voters can only help us protect RKBA.
 
I'd like to ask a "Part 2" question, which is "Do they VOTE pro gun or do other issues outweigh the gun issues for them, for which they might ultimately vote for anti-gun representation in government?"
I'm sure that varies greatly from one person to another just like it does for most people.
 
I'd like to ask a "Part 2" question, which is "Do they VOTE pro gun or do other issues outweigh the gun issues for them, for which they might ultimately vote for anti-gun representation in government?"
We are friends with a gay family and both of the women shoot and one also hunts. They tend a small farm and sell at the local farmer's market and are very self sufficient and "prepper" oriented.
I'd say small "L" Libertarians but, if they want any support politically around this state they have to support the Democrats.
Kinda ironic in a way...
 
I know quite a few people who fall into your categorization. As HammsBeer noted, most of them don't want to be labeled or treated any different than anyone else. They're just people. Some I know are avid shooters, some are not. I suspect that they probably flush out the same as any other group of people with regards to whether or not they support the whole constitution or just the parts of it they like.

Ultimately, I think it's best to not think in terms of whether or not they fit nicely into some classification like LGBT or XYZPDQ or whatever, and think of them as fellow citizens who either are or should be concerned with their freedom.
 
People who identify LGBT and also interested in their gun rights are stuck between voting for politicians who will protect their right to marry and from discrimination, or those politicians who will protect their RKBA rights. As much as i'm sick of the lies and attacks on 2A issues from the left, i'm also sick and fed up with the hatred and bigotry against the LGBT from the right.

I'm personally a libertarian.
 
Have a step-daughter that came out gay her senior year in High School. After graduating she decided to join the military, and ultimately became a Kiowa helicopter maintenance crew chief. She is heavy into guns and hunting, as much as her job and lifestyle allows. She's an awesome girl and I bet any guy on this forum would have a blast hanging around with her.
 
We had the LGBT voting discussion in Activism Discussion recently and the simple fact is that there is no data so all that people have are conjecture and opinion about how LGBT people may or may not vote.

Getting back to the original question, whether someone has learned to or enjoys shooting is as much a community social issue as anything. If your area supports recreational shooting more people across the board are involved to one level or another.

Here's are snippets from a good articles touching on this-

http://www.mygayhouston.com/listings/Athena-Gun-Club/23996/ has an article supporting a range/store in Houston.

http://www.vice.com/read/meet-the-gay-libertarian-gun-nuts-1022 said:
Tom Palmer, a gay libertarian, was walking to dinner with a co-worker in 1982 when he was told by a group of passing homophobes that he would be killed and nobody would ever find his body. Walking slowly away, and then running, Palmer was pursued by the gang for about a hundred feet until he turned to face them with the handgun his mother had given him. His aggressors retreated when they saw the gun, and Palmer was safe—the gun may very well have saved his life. Today, Palmer, now a senior fellow at the libertarian Cato Institute, is fighting to tear down Washington DC’s prohibition against carrying handguns.

Palmer isn’t the only gay pro-gun libertarian activist out there. In fact, there are thousands of LGBT individuals who are skeptical of the government and love shooting things—or are at least prepared to do so in self-defense. I wasn’t aware of this subculture until I attended LibertyFest NYC—initially, I was taken aback when Marcel Fontaine, a speaker at the convention and creator of the “LGBT for Gun Rights” Facebook page told me that the “more guns, less crime” argument often referenced by opponents of gun control can apply to hate crimes, too. “Armed gays don’t get bashed” is how they often put it.

http://www.shotgunnews.com/uncategorized/gay-pride-gun-pride/ said:
There was rumor going around the SHOT Show this year that the Pink Pistols, a gay 2nd Amendment group, would have a stand. That proved not to be the case, so far as I could tell, but it did raise a question.

What do gay rights and gun rights have in common? More than you might think, I would say.



Read more: http://www.shotgunnews.com/uncategorized/gay-pride-gun-pride/#ixzz3kmSAwsPP
 
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My sister-in-law is a married lesbian who likes to shoot, fish, and hunt. We have a great relationship and I can speak openly to her, which has sparked debate that continues into the wee hours.

All that discussion on this very issue boiled down to the same points Sam1911 just made so clearly. I think Sam is spot on.
 
I only really know one, he/she is pro gun.
When I rode in an M/C there was group of lesbian riders, some had ccw, not sure how they voted on other than LBGT issues.
 
My son is gay, and My son-in-law recently received his Doctoral Degree. He has little intrest in guns but my son is a shooter and owns guns. Like HammsBeer said; my son is torn in the voting booth between voting his support for the 2nd Ad. and support for politicians who support HIM!

There are a lot of people in the LGBT community who feel the same way.
 
What we CAN do is try to spread the good news of RKBA among them and their peers so that they go out and work to undermine the BS that their friends have been fed by one wing of our political system about guns and gun rights. It certainly won't happen overnight, but withering away support for gun control among traditionally "left" leaning voters can't possibly hurt us!

This is incredibly important, if we can change RKBA from an apparently Republican position to an American position, we win. :)
 
This is quite the strange thread....

Support for the RKBA is not the same as "went shooting once" or "purchased a pistol"...

RKBA is a liberty based constitutional point of view towards gun ownership and use. It views gun rights as a necessary check on state power and is philosophically at odds with statism. To think that you're going to get leftist statists who are wise enough to appreciate that having a gun for personal defense is desireable to agree with the philosophy that underpins the RKBA, is, in my view, fallacy.

Many people who go shooting once or even own a pistol are all for UBC, AR bans and high cap bans. Such are, imo, not pro 2A and pro RKBA.
 
SSN Vet, what does that have to do with LBGT folks?

They may be statists, they may be libertarians. They may be "once shot a gun" types, or may be Burt Gummer, reincarnate. What point are you making?
 
I know a few in the LGBT--it's hard not to, going to a community college and vaguely associated circles--and they do indeed run the whole range on how they feel about guns. They're just people, after all. The majority were at least neutral or were for gun rights (as my group of friends tends toward) and others grew up in a city and only saw the harm that could be done with them, though knew it was just the easiest tool for the people using it.

On the other hand, as far as I'm aware, they voted almost exclusively Democrat. Because guns may be a part of it, but being treated as an actual person tends to come first.
Now if someone would just promote all rights for all people, that's where they would go.
 
I highly doubt that you can put the whole LGBT community on one side of the RKBA issue. It is like asking what the RKBA community's stance on gay rights is. Some for, some against, some undecided, and some couldn't care less. Heck, all us 2A supporters (LGBT or otherwise) aren't always on the same side of gun issues.
 
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