WestKentucky
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Why are we looking at groups again? Grouping people leads to stereotypes which leads to persecution and judgement. People are not herds of cattle grouped together by one common trait. Look at the people, not at the group.
Want to expand RKBA? Start by listening to people's concerns about what freedoms are important to them, and show that you both have common ground in wanting to exercise your rights and freedoms!
Why are we looking at groups again? Grouping people leads to stereotypes which leads to persecution and judgement. People are not herds of cattle grouped together by one common trait. Look at the people, not at the group.
The 2A is more important than a marriage license.
Vote accordingly.
The 2A is more important than a marriage license.
Vote accordingly.
To you. To me. And maybe so some LGB folks, too. But that's not really an answer that will convince very many other folks. Gotta find more angles to work on than just the "2nd Amendment über Alles" argument.
Unfortunately this country is way to devided for that, I'd say the exact opposite is true. I think your working on the assumption that people can and will find other areas in common, many times that would be an incorrect assumption.
Ignore your differences, respect each other's different opinion on other issues and focus solely on gun rights, even if it's the only place you agree. That's why here on THR we are discouraged from talking about things like politics, abortion, religion, and sexual orientation.
I'm sorry, I don't get your point. Could you clarify?You know.... I could care less what this or that group thinks about anything I do or think.
Awesome! As with any other media-fueled 'hot button issue', there shouldn't be an issue at all. One of the things I like about this forum is the thoughtful open-mindedness fostered by the modereators and (most of) the members. Many moons ago, I invited a THR member who is gay to join another gun forum. He did, and eventually was harrassed by some of the more Neaderthal members there, including some of the mods. I personally apologized to him, and admonished the mod staff there for allowing that to happen. I've taught LGTB people how to shoot over the years, probably more than I know of, and I hope they, as I hope for all of those I've taught, continue to enjoy and support the shooting sports. As 2A supporters, we're all in this together.Chris Cheng, winner of season 4 Top Shot, is an NRA commentator and writes for The Firearm Blog, and has come out as gay. I'd say he's a pretty good public ambassador of the relationship between gays and guns.
There are 3 kinds of 2nd Amendment supportors.
1. Those who voice their support, take an active role in preserving those rights, and support elected officials who take an active role in preseving those rights.
2. Those who voice their own needs for 2nd Amendment rights because they are "special", but don't offer the same support of those rights for others.
3. Those who voice their support for the 2nd Amendment, while voting, endorsing and working for the election of rabidly anti-gun politicians in the name of party loyalty.
The last two are of little help to the cause.
Also, to ignorantly vote for anyone on the basis of their thoughts on an issue as opposed to how they can affect that issue in the course of their duties in the office for which they are running is a bit foolhardy. I often hear Hiallry "has done so much for women's rights" or Obama has "done so much for gay rights" when in fact neither has done enything beyond espressing their own viewpoints while both have taken significant action AGAINST the 2nd Amendment.
I'm sorry, I don't get your point. Could you clarify?
Are you speaking as a LGBT person, and you don't care what other gay folks think of your RKBA beliefs? That's fine if that's how you feel, but do you promote RKBA among others that you know, or just -- to steal the phrase -- "don't ask, don't tell" in regards to guns?
There could hardly be a better ambassador of gun rights to the gay community than gay folks who already shoot and treasure the 2nd Amendment!