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The geese are often a bit late getting down here, but we seem to have very few ducks down here, yet. I've been striking out. Two mornings haven't fired a shot.:banghead: This is ridiculous.

We're getting a trickle of specklebellies. They're usually the first to migrate. I heard my first flight of snows the other night. I'm sure hoping this front that's coming helps out. I've seen some big ducks, not many, but some. We just haven't had a good push of cold air. It was high 60s in the blind this morning and I was sweating. Just ain't right. :banghead:
 
MC,
I live in NE Oklahoma. Have been seeing more and more specks and snows the last week headed your way. Saturday I probably saw 3,000. And I hear them all night long. We just had our first frost Saturday. And it only lasted a couple hours. We need some really cold weather in Nebraska and Kansas to push some down. Have been seeing a few ducks in creeks and ponds. But no numbers to speak of. Our season doesn't even begin to get good until mid/late December. We need a later season.
 
It has been a late mild fall here. We are getting a cold front at this moment with heavy rain and winds. But no snow to speak of. I suspect it will move them your way some.
 
I'm in NC, and I saw blue winged teal last week when I was headed to my deer stand. So yes, migration seems to be running behind schedule. They should've been gone long ago. I suppose by now they could be down south.
 
They should be coming your way soon.

Temp dropped for 70 at noon to near freezing by morning.

Only problem is, the 40-50 MPH SW wind will have to stop before they can get there!!

rc
 
Yeah, the jet stream has been holding north so far this fall. We got a dab of cold weather back in mid October, but its been real warm here in W.Ga.
Watch the cold fronts. Also freeze over of water courses in S. Canada and Minnesota.

As a pilot and trained as a Wildlife Biologist, with 2 and a half decades as a Conservation officer I took a strong interest in watching the waterfowl migrations. I became a fanatical water fowler for a while back in the '80's and early '90's. My part-time job was flying for a friends company who was an even more fanatic waterfowler. We did a bit of goose hunting in S. Texas. However, a hunt in N.Dakota on opening week ruined me.

We loaded up on Heavy Shot and bismuth loads for our 12ga's. After 4days of unbelievably good hunting, I wished I'd taken my .410 or at heaviest, a 28ga. At times, a long handled tennis racket would have been "just right". Opening morning, we had mallards landing on hunters in layout blinds amongst the decoys! I still have 2/3 of the shells we bought, killed our limits every day, too, -Devils Lake area).
Ruined me. No longer will I get up 3 hrs before daybreak to drive 30 mi, boat ride, or slog waist deep in waders in frozen water to "HOPE" for a shot at a wood duck that is barely subsonic after being sky busted on 4 other beaver ponds.
I'm "deer hunting" as I peck this out. Occasionally going to kitchen window a peeking in the back acres while refilling the coffee cup...
It just ain't the same when you're turning 60!

Added; I got my best education on waterfowl movements one day flying client to St. Louis. We were at 10,000' heading N.W. A little north of Memphis. We broke out of the frontal boundary like punching through a wall. ATC called us an unidentified target, our altitude, 3mi. closing at 90kts (103mph!).
Lo and behold, a flock of about 200 snows! I used to be amazed at how they could fly such distance, but now know they "cheat" big time. I ran the calculations, if (and they do!) catch a northerly wind, at 100mph ground speed, they can go from Canada to Texas literally over night (their preferred time is on a moonlit night, with broken cloud cover).
Be patient, they'll get there! But I do recommend you try a hunt to Minnesota or N.Dakota for opening day. Nothing like hunting a bunch of un-educated birds!
 
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Well, Goose, I'm 63 and have been a duck shooting addict since the age of 14. I've seen some great hunts in Texas, but the birds have to be here. Right now, they just aren't. Interesting perspective on the snow migrations, though. Those big guys put on some miles! If I had untold fortunes of cash working for me, I'd hunt out of state, but I'm on a fixed income at this point. Being able to join a waterfowl club out of Eagle Lake (20 miles from me) was a stretch, but I ain't getting any younger and figure that while I can do it, I need to do it, build a few more memories I can take to the nursing home with me in the future. The bird's will be here, got to be upbeat I guess. LOL

Yeah, I hunt deer about 200 yards behind my house in the woods, easiest hunting around. I get up before daylight, stumble out to my box blind, fire up the thermocell or the heater depending on conditions, lay back in my high back office chair. Hey, I'm old! Bow season I'll be in my tree stand, though, get some elevation. But, I'm a waterfowler through and through, rather be shooting birds, just the way I've always been. But, when I can no longer do it, I've thought about paving the path back to my box blind, rigging it where I can run a motorized wheel chair up in it, and continue deer hunting, though I haven't come up with a good idea on how I'd field dress or skin the thing if I shot one, LOL.

But, ya know, Art is older and HE still seems to hunt, somehow. Where there's a will, there's a way. But, waterfowl hunting is definitely not for the infirm. I need to do it now, while I still can. I got up yesterday morning at 3:30, drank some coffee, loaded up Molly (my lab), and drove to one of our leased spots. Got set up in a blind with my feet in the water after stumbling around in the mud putting out water keel deeks that didn't want to upright themselves after tossing (I hate that). No birds, sat there until 9AM, picked up, came home. I slept on the couch all afternoon, went to bed at 10, and slept until 9AM this morning. DAMN I'm a wimp! I couldn't work rotating shift anymore if they paid me 3 times what I made when I was working. But, as they say, worst morning hunting is better than the best morning working. And, heck, I saved on ammo and didn't have to breast any ducks when I got home.

I'll get my money's worth out of this club when the birds get here. I have my goose rags ready, windsock type, and the goose season is long now days as they're trying to thin 'em out, overpopulated. Not so much wading and stumbling in water with geese, but lots of walking around putting out lots of deeks, then pickin' 'em back up after the hunt. It's a little tougher than deer hunting the way I do it now days, but I guess it's good exercise.. :D I do need the exercise. Can't hunt 'em with a tennis racket down here, but the 10 gauge seems to work okay. :D
 
Oh, one little story. I have been hunting Guadalupe Delta WMA, a state managed marsh bought with funds from the state's APH funds and help from Ducks Unlimited back in the 80s, for since its inception. They really manage that marsh well and it holds the birds. I've shot many limits out there. The APH permit is only 48 bucks a year, can't beat that. But, I moved away from there, so it's a deal to go down there, get set up in an RV spot, and hunt next morning.

Anyway, I was hunting a spot one morning, shot the last bird for my limit, was walking in on the trail. I come upon two old guys. Now, at this point I think I was late 40s. These guys were pushing 80, two old hunting buddies. They were sitting on their marsh chairs chatting and I stopped to chat. They said they hunted a NWR up in Missouri and had always gotten a blind, but that year they missed out. You have to get in a lotto or something and get drawn for a blind every year. One of the guys had a son working down here and so they came down to hunt at GDWMA. Now, the hunting is sorta tough out there, long walks to hunting spots, mud, salt grass to stumble over, all carrying your deeks, your shotgun, your ammo, your marsh chair. These fellows were just taking it easy, catching their breath when they needed to. It was inspiring. :D

Yep, where there's a will, there's a way. When I joined this waterfowl club, partly was for the goose hunting it offers (most decent goose hunting in this state is on private farms) and partly for the easier duck hunting. It's hunting from blinds and I can ride my little dirt bike right down to most of 'em with the deeks and such. It is easier than hunting GDWMA. :D Still gotta get up early, though. I think that hurts me more than the physical work of putting out the deeks and pickin' 'em up. :D I don't have to get up as early to go to the box blind.
 
It's been in the seventies here in Wisconsin up until this week. Bowhunters that always take the first week of Navember off for hunting the rut were frustrated as the bucks did not move until dark because it was so hot. Woodcock season closed here ten days ago without seeing any part of the flight down. Once the local birds were clipped, it was done. Usually around Halloween the flights are in and you can limit out every time you go out. Still have yet to see any sign of a northern flight. Like the ducks and geese that stay ahead of lakes freezing, woodcock stay ahead of the ground freezing. Just not cold enough yet. Fortunately for the local goose hunters, native birds were very plentiful and corn was chopped early.
 
Mc, I usually hear geese within a couple of days of Halloween. Have not heard any this year though. I'm on the east side of the metroplex, but I have always heard them at night. now my brother keeps a couple of boats at Lavon, and lots of ducks showing up there. He feeds them near a marina. Mostly mallards. I used to like duck hunting, but never found a way to fix them where I could eat them. I agree with you, a hard core waterfowl hunter will not be a wimp.
 
There's almost no ducks in my part of Florida but that's nothing new the pst 3 years. I have almost quit duck hunting due to the lack of birds and the abundance of rude "Duck Dynasty wannabes."
 
Don't have to worry about the duck dynasty wannabes on private leases, +1 for hunting private land. :D

I've reserved for tomorrow morning. This little cool (not cold, just cool) front blew in. We'll see if it brought any birds with it. If not, we're getting what is probably close to a "blue norther" about Tuesday. THAT should help!....I hope.

At any rate, can't shoot ducks sitting at home. Gotta be in the blind to do that.

Gun deer season has started and I ain't even interested. Feeder's feedin', we have plenty of deer and hogs, just got birds on the mind. Part of that is that I killed a nice buck during bow season and trapped a hog, so freezer space is limited at the moment, anyway. I need a bigger freezer. :D
 
I wonder if the birds will get there in time for the season?
I am further west than you guys, but there doesn't seem to be any cold weather on this side of the country to push them south yet. I just got back from a trip to a job site and saw 2 live grasshoppers and a handful of hornets. High is supposed to be 50 today. In Idaho!!!
 
Best friend hunted Venice LA last weekend. No ducks down there yet either. He says worst it's been this time of year in several years. We just haven't had the weather to push them down yet. I also think their patterns have changed over the years. The big drought in Canada back in the 80s really wiped out the ducks and duck hunting has never been the same since.
 
Strange Autumn weather here. We normally get frost at the end of September but here we are in the middle of November and not a frost yet. We shoot our ducks from the 21st August as once the ponds freeze they head for the coast. We had some good days on the ducks this year and my springer spaniel worked well. We have started on the pheasant but need a couple of good frosts to make it feel like propper hunting.
Not seen a boar up at the feeder for 3 weeks and that was a sow with a very late litter. Plenty of moose about and we only have 2 calves left to shoot. Roll on a bit of cold weather.
 
Well, saw 2 birds this morning. There were a few flocks of very high flying geese, mostly specklebellies. They get here earlier than the snows. There are a few snows here, but very few.

I'll go one more time ths first split after this good norther blows through. If THAT don't bring 'em down, probably be the second split, but I'll likely try AGAIN toward the end of the first split, I guess. This kinda sux, but what can ya do except roll with it.

Guess I can always go squirrel hunting. :D
 
When I hunt in Texas I go to Aransas Pass and hunt Redfish Bay. Blast and cast. I can remember my first hunt in the bay. Shortly before sun up the sky looked like smoke in the distance. I had no idea there was that many RedHeads in the world. You have to have a boat to cross the channel, after that, the bay isnt more than waist deep, though the muck is often deep. An air boat really helps.

While racing in the River Safari a few years ago I looked at the Guadalupe delta. I would be afraid to allow my dog loose unless it was very cold. How do hunters on the delta retrieve their birds?
 
Well, saw 2 birds this morning. There were a few flocks of very high flying geese, mostly specklebellies. They get here earlier than the snows. There are a few snows here, but very few.
:D

The snows still haven't made it here to Wisconsin. Still too warm up north. Finally are seeing a few large northern flocks of Canadians passing thru. Normally, the Snows are about two weeks behind them.
 
Halloween was north zone opener here and there were tons of teal wood ducks and pintails. Starting to see a couple flocks of snows and Canada's now.

I don't know much about waterfowl but they are by far the most interesting animal to hunt. Migrations are awesome.
 
Thanks for all the reports! At least I ain't dreamin' this lack of birds. :D

While racing in the River Safari a few years ago I looked at the Guadalupe delta. I would be afraid to allow my dog loose unless it was very cold. How do hunters on the delta retrieve their birds?

I do not take my dog out there during teal season, just retrieve 'em myself. I lose a bird now and then, but I don't lose a dog. One teal hunt a few years back, my SIL was going after a bird I shot, said "something big an green came up and got it." I suggested he might come sit back down. :D I've had to pepper big gators at times to keep 'em from molesting my decoys. When there's a big one on a hole, they'll close that area. BUT, that's only during early teal season. By the duck season, they're all hibernating in holes. I don't know about THIS year, though. They might still be out down there. Been way too warm late into the season.

I've hunted all over the coast, from the land cut between upper and lower Laguna Madre up to Cole pass off Galveston bay and have not hunted, but messed around at Annuhac and JD Murphree WMA out of Port Author. I kinda like this inland hunting, not used to it, but it's a little easier hunting especially since they have blinds set up. I'm used to hunting in the grass either standing the whole time or on my marsh chair.
 
Climate change?I did a little waterfowl hunting in PA 40 years ago.Limit was one goose per day.In this agricultural county we are overrun with them in suburbia.They foul the ponds and walkways in parks.Its easy to see a hundred in an industrial park.Last time I checked a few years ago you were allowed 15 Canadas a day in September and a late snow goose season in the spring on top of the regular season.They have become year round residents.Guys used to travel south to Maryland and Delaware for wintering geese.They stop short in this area now.
 
"...It has been a late, mild, fall here..." Close to being warm here(59F right now). Supposed to be 37F Friday.
Not so warm out West, but still warmer than usual. Like RC says, temperatures are supposed to plummet tonight or tomorrow. Currently 9F in Northern AB. 20F in Sask. 4F in Rankin Inlet(On Hudson's Bay).
 
I live in NE Oklahoma and it's the 18th of November and my wife's flowers are still blooming on the back porch. Everything is late this year. I hunted deer for 9 days during the Oklahoma primitive deer season and never saw a single antler. The bucks were only active at night. I live near the Cimarron and Arkansas rivers and I haven't seen any flights of geese and ducks. The midges that give deer blue tongue are worse during August and September in warm weather and it could be bad for the deer. Our population hasn't recovered from the dry years and the blue tongue has taken its tole.
 
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