Savage 110 build

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Hey folks, it has been many moons since I have signed on here, so long in fact, I'm probably not even the same person I was the last time I signed on. Anyhow, my interests have changed a bit and while I am still a "hunter" (i use that term loosely since most of my hunting is just eradicating deer from my farm) I am now very interested in long-er range shooting. I live in the thick appalachian mountains, so, not many opportunities to shoot VERY long range, but, I want to start trying. I've gotten the bug so to speak. My little built .223 Ruger American fulfills the immediate need for punching holes but I am looking to go further and do a little more than the .223 will allow.

Anyhow, I'm picking up a used .30-06 savage 110 later, and while .30-06 is my go to hunting round and I know it is a capable long-range hole puncher, it is honestly too hard on the shoulder to be enjoyable. Not that I'm exactly "recoil sensitive" but after a box of them it just isn't pleasant anymore, I didn't figure that out until I built this .223 and actually enjoy going out to shoot again. So, this is a "long action" savage 110 set up for .30-06. I am looking to rebarrel and probably put a new stock on it as well as some trigger work. Might do a little cosmetic stuff, but I'm looking to keep it affordable, while being able to reach out. Primarily punching paper, although, I also want to keep the caliber "useful" at longer ranges if I ever did want to say, take a coyote in the distance (unlikely). Lets say 600 yards with the ability to "play around" with 1,000 yards should the chance (meaning range) present itself.

I do NOT reload although I understand I should start, for now lets just say that I don't plan to. I live in an area where "odd" ammo is impractical to find and long range calibers are rare ( I sold a .300 win mag because of no local ammo availability). So, I have a couple questions to start with.

1. Right now I am thinking about either .243 or .308 (.308 is the max recoil I want). Is there something else I am not thinking about that may be better and will use the same bolt as the .30-06 with no more mods than just a rebarrel?

2. I've seen threads on .30-06 to .308 builds several times, but I don't recall seeing one on .30-06 to .243, is there anything wrong with this that I'm not understanding? Feeding issues?

While I appreciate all commentary, I used to really like this site for the politeness and well informed opinions, I would love to hear from folks who have built savage long action rifles into short action paper punchers.

Thanks!
 
Is it a centerfeed or staggered feed action? If It's a staggered feed action you might not have to change anything or maybe get the mag parts from savage from the time when all savages were long actions and they built them in short action cartridges. If it's centerfeed it is no great trick to space a short action box and get it feeding just fine. If I were doing it and buying a new barrel anyway I would get a 6.5 Creedmoor and play with those long range bullets.
 
Not sure, supposed to pick it up today, still haven't heard from the fella. I was curious about that internal mag feeding and what would be required to make it jive with some other round. I'm a skilled mechanic and somewhat skilled fabricator, so I'm not too worried about figuring it out. I like the thought of the 6.5 creedmoor, but, ammo availability is an issue for me locally, hence me trying to keep it somewhat "normal". I'm really leaning towards a nice .243 barrel at this point, but haven't quite made up my mind yet.
 
I turned a 300 Mag long action Savage centerfeed into a 243 and it was easy. Had to buy a bolthead and kit along with a short action mag box but it was a piece of cake to do. The rifle was a real shooter before and it still is. Way more fun to shoot. I might be interested in buying your 30-06 barrel if you won't need it.
 
I swapped a 7mag to a 35 Whelen not too long ago and it was pretty simple. For 30-06 to 243 you shouldn't need anything other than the barrel and maybe an internal mag block. The bolt head and mag lips are already correct for the 30-06 and 308-based cartridges.
 
If it is a centerfeed action the magazine lips are not far enough forward for reliable feeding sadly, well it would work ok with just one round in the magazine.
 
well, poo, haven't heard from him yet and it's nearly 7 pm, not going out this evening for it even if he hasn't changed his mind on the deal.... I hope it is just a case of having to work late and not a case of dodging my phone calls.
 
Lower recoil, distance capable (high b.c.) factory loaded (expensive):
.243 win
.260rem(with a longer throat for vld loads)/6.5cm & 6.5-284 Norma(personal favorite)
7mm-08
.308
If you handload, there would be ALOT of options as you seem to be aware. As it is, I'm a huge .243 supporter and launch lots of lead plenty far down range accurately with one. However, for the most efficient trade-off for distance, recoil, powder usage, I love that Norma. There are probably other cartridges I didn't think of for the job, but I do believe savage has a barrel for almost all of those listed, including the Norma. I would have included the 6.5 Swede but I'm under the impression that American factory loads cripple its potential. 7-08 will rock that .308 in about every way, and the .260 will gain b.c., sectional density, and velocity in the same weights.
 
Since it's a long action, I'd think about the 6.5-06 A Square, or maybe 6.5x55 or 7x57. You'd have to get into reloading for the 6.5-06. The bolt face might have to be opened up slightly for the latter two.
 
Thanks for all the advice folks.... So, no savage for me, at least not right now. The guy just fell off the face of well, facebook haha... I am betting he did not write down my phone number and got banned for posting the ad since he hasn't replied to any messages or even seen the messages I have sent. So, moving forward, I bought two new to me remington 700's :-D I got a .223 to take the place of the abysmal and disappointing ruger american rifle I have and a .308 for some longer range stuff.... I may do a remage barrel for the .308 and turn it into something else, but for now I'm getting the .223 tuned up. First ammo I tried (pmc bronze 55 grain) outshot EVERYTHING I have tried in the ruger. Sad, I spent a good deal of time and money trying to make the ruger shoot, but it never would.

Anyhow.... happy dance :-D I suspect I'll have the .223 all tuned up this weekend and start playing with the .308 next week, lets hope it likes cheap ammo too!
 
First time I've heard of a Ruger American not shooting, but I'm glad you found one that will.
 
OP: you state that you don't plan to reload, and thus feel the need to stick to 'locally available ammo-only'...

Why not take a closer look at one of the other "odd" calibers mentioned, which would certainly satisfy the parameters you listed, and purchase the ammo via the internet?

Sam
 
Is the ruger a .223? Ive never heard of a ruger american not being a good shooter. I have 2 and they are GREAT shooters. Please fill us in on the details of the ruger and ammo. Im almost certain that people here can point you in the right direction and have your ruger shooting 1 MOA groups in no time.
 
For that 308 Rem 700 you got, track down a few boxes of Federal Gold Medal Match either in 168gr or 175gr.
Some of the BEST shooting factory ammo I've ever used.
 
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