Is there a run on high caps?

Damon555 said:

Personally I have no use for 30 round magazines....Each of my rifles came with a couple and the mags have just sat in my parts box for years. Since my AR's are used for hunting and target shooting the majority of my mags are 5 and 10 rounders. You guys can buy up all the big boys......and worry when you can't find any more. I'll stand on the sidelines and keep using my puny, lo-cap mags.......my ammo is much too valuable to me to blast away 30 rounds at a time.

AR mags might well be a wear item but I have 20 year old magazines that still function perfectly and I shoot the rifles a bunch.....still haven't worn one out. In all honesty I just don't understand it. What's the appeal of having dozens of hi-cap magazines anyway?

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My God man, what rock have you been hiding under? Don’t you know that the economy could collapse any day now and everyone will be fighting for survival. The truth is, the AR just looks more evil with a 30 round mag.
Your 20 round mags are only 20 years old. Hell, I have some from the Vietnam era. I have between 15 to 20, of the 20 round mags that I use for hunting and shooting from 5he bench.

I can understand loading mags in advance but for me to shoot 100-200 rounds in one range session would take all day.....loading a mag with 5 rounds only takes a few seconds so it's not that big of a deal.....and like I said, the ammo that I shoot is much to valuable for me to just blast it away.

Yeah, those 30 rounders do look evil Gunny......and I'm sure some folks think there's a cool factor to it.....but for me 5 rounds through the same hole (which I have yet to achieve!) is much more interesting than 30 rounds scattered about.

I have some from the Vietnam era.

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My "go to" mag when an AR is acting up is an old Okay Industries Vietnam era surplus mag that I got used at a gun show many years ago, it had minimal original finish when I got it and even less now, but never a problem, if it don't feed form this one, its time to start fixing the gun! It doesn't have the "anti-tilt" follower that people these days think is a must.

I really don't see any use in it unless you want to hid them . I don't think the Government will grandfather them like in the past . I think they will totally outlaw them along with the firearms that they can be used in . I am thinking about selling my AR's now while I still can and before I take that loss in the wallet . It's kind of like predicting the stock market now .

and like I said, the ammo that I shoot is much to valuable for me to just blast it away.

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Par time on a "Bianchi cup" style plate rack is 6 plates in 3 seconds at 10 yards, and in the 10 second range with an AR depending on the distance. It may sound like blasting, but it most certainly is not!

This is not a shooting discipline for those who want to conserve ammo.

AlexanderA said:

Remember that 20-round magazines are also in the gun-banners' sights. Even 15-round M1 carbine mags, etc.

There's a legislative feeding frenzy going on, based on all the bills that are being introduced on the state and federal levels. These people have lost their collective minds.

No legislation is going to actually remove magazines. It will, however, sweep them under the carpet and make them "invisible" for law-abiding people.

Buy while you still can.

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Last night I got on Brownell's website to order some of their 40 round Pmags they have on sale. I meant to order 3, but due to a computer glitch....by that I mean I "fatfingered" a touch key ....I accidently entered 6. Seeing my mistake .... and aware of the politics of the day ....I let it stand.

I hope Nancy Pelosi reads this post and goes all sideways. But that's only wishful thinking.

Certainly different disciplines require differing amounts and types of ammo. Like I said the vast majority of my shooting is target/load testing and hunting tiny critters way out there shooting which is done from positions not conducive to having a huge mag sticking out of the mag well. I'm pretty sure that the majority of the folks hoarding the hi-cap mags have never shot in any type of match. We, on THR, are really passionate about our guns and few of us are your average shooter. The stockpiles of magazines are in the basements of people who think that they'll need them in the future to fend off some sort of oppressor.....which would make them (in their minds) some kind of "operator" and in the simplest of terms is totally unrealistic.

My wife thinks I can be quite negative.....but time and time again I'm proven correct simply because I'm a realist....My very favorite thing to say to my family (which happens a lot!) is "I'm tired of being right"!......

(As a side note, I work with a gentleman who actually is what we would call an "operator".....He goes to other countries and trains military units and commando groups and aides them in carrying out their missions. He can advise but can't actually be involved......of course you'd never know it by talking to him....like the vast majority of seasoned combat vets he doesn't talk about it. It took me almost 8 years to put together any real information about his "other job"....He's towards the end of his carrier and is in the National Guard now and as a Master Sargent mostly just gets to tell other guys what to do)

Damon555 said:

What's the appeal of having dozens of hi-cap magazines anyway?

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Some of us shoot a lot when we go to the range. And if one is going through a training course, you will need a bunch of pre-loaded 30 round magazines. Frankly, I'd rather spend my time actually shooting and doing productive training than sitting around loading magazines. Finally, worst case scenario ... defending one's homestead or one's tribe will be done much more effectively with standard (30 round), or greater, capacity magazines. Just sayin' ...

I'm pretty well fixed for AR-15 magazines. However, I could sure use more AR-180 factory mags, or the Sterling dual-purpose steel mags for the AR-15/AR-180. These were rare and hard to find before the latest panics, and go for upwards of $100 when found.

AlexanderA said:

I'm pretty well fixed for AR-15 magazines. However, I could sure use more AR-180 factory mags, or the Sterling dual-purpose steel mags for the AR-15/AR-180. These were rare and hard to find before the latest panics, and go for upwards of $100 when found.

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Not to hijack a thread, but more tales of woe, HK P7 (and these aren't even "high capacity") or worse HK P7M13. And to keep in on rifle topic, consider .308 Galil, HK41, or the 5.56 and .308 Valmet mags in the $150-300 price range!

red rick said:

I really don't see any use in it unless you want to hid them . I don't think the Government will grandfather them like in the past . I think they will totally outlaw them along with the firearms that they can be used in . I am thinking about selling my AR's now while I still can and before I take that loss in the wallet . It's kind of like predicting the stock market now .

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So you’re giving up before the real fight starts ?

I am not giving up and will fight , but I don't have to have a AR to do it .

red rick said:

I am not giving up and will fight , but I don't have to have a AR to do it .

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You do know that I’m just messing with you.

And all the manufacturers and sellers say, Hallelujah, the panic buying is back!

The students at Parkland that became media darlings calling for gun bans could end up selling more guns than Obama.

Tommygunn said:

Yes. It's mainly my fault. I just ordered a pack of 25 AR mags from Brownells, and 2 Surefire 60 rounders as well.
If this has inconvenienced anyone here, I apologize.

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You should be ashamed. Repent. Go to confession or something.

GunnyUSMC said:

I like having a few extra mags on hand. Here is one box og my extra mags. You can never have enough.

Having Extra AR parts on hand is a good idea also.

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I don't own an AR but I have several dozen mags for my 1911's, I also have a dozen for my M1 carbine. If it runs a mag you need a dozen. Load them all up and keep them handy. There is absolutely no reason to own a semi auto anything if you can't lay your hands on 200 rounds of ammo ready to use. You might as well be sporting a breach loader.

When there's lead in the air there is hope. Unknown

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Walkalong said:

We have recently gone through a long stretch of super prices on all thing AR, and I hope folks bought what they needed/wanted, and since mags are a wear item, stocked up on mags. If they didn't, and they are buying in bulk today, they are buying out of fear.

But knock yourself out, it's a free country. I just get tired of some of the "chicken little" comments.

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Ouch! You sure believe in going for the jugular vein.

We live on a budget with other needs and a big home remodeling project in the plans which means I have to spread my buying out for months. Plus to spread my shooting dollars farther I also wait until the items I want are on sale.

As I plan to build more AR’s my “fear”, as you put it, is that Democrats win control of Congress which lead to a long Danic before I can buy some more magazines.

Reloadron said:

I only have 4 AR rifles which use the same magazines and over the years I have accumulated more than 10 mags for each

Ron

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For me the ideal number is 11 per gun. One in the gun and ten in a 50 caliber ammo can. Plus there is still room left over in the ammo can for extra items such as more ammo and shooting accessories.

Damon555 said:

I can understand loading mags in advance but for me to shoot 100-200 rounds in one range session would take all day.....loading a mag with 5 rounds only takes a few seconds so it's not that big of a deal.....and like I said, the ammo that I shoot is much to valuable for me to just blast it away.

Yeah, those 30 rounders do look evil Gunny......and I'm sure some folks think there's a cool factor to it.....but for me 5 rounds through the same hole (which I have yet to achieve!) is much more interesting than 30 rounds scattered about.

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I only live a few miles from my shooting range but only 5 rounds is not even worth the effort to get my guns out of the vault. However it sounds like we are both on a tight budget so even shooting a few rounds is better than none. But 30 rounds in the same hole is even more interesting than just 5.

I buy them because I want them, as is my prerogative when money allows. I’m not paranoid to a fault, but I do enjoy storing ammo in a neat, convenient manner which also allows me to know what I have on hand. 30-round magazines are great for that purpose, loaded to 28 and packed away in ammo cans. And, if for some reason they were needed, I wouldn’t be lugging around all of those magazines AND loose ammo.

I think good deals on magazines are encouraging people to stock up at present because they saw the bottom fall out and it’s now experiencing a slight rebound.

there’s people with crazy amounts of mags, AR’s and ammo stashed away waiting for the next panic so they can dump them for lots of cash.

I’d say a dozen is a good number. I tend to use the same few mags over and over and leave the rest as new unloaded for long term use.

A man should have a couple years worth of everything in their stash. For me the most important thing is a new pair of keen work boots that have been worn just enough to be broken in (a week). A man without good shoes is a gonner.

The 30 rounds mags were a little thinner on the ground at Scheel's today but still a good amount. They were out of 40 round mags, not a single one in stock, and the Gen3 P-Mags were nearly sold out. But they had a ton of Gen1 P-Mags. Again, I have a ton of mags but even so I was contemplating picking up a couple...

AR magazines are legitimate collectibles in themselves. For example, early Vietnam-era 30-round magazines with dark green followers with white numbers are rare and pricey, and their value has nothing to do with their utility as magazines. There was a progression after that to black followers, then light green ones, then tan ones, and so on. And there are all the variations in baseplate markings, etc. You could make a hobby of just collecting magazines.

What's the appeal of having dozens of hi-cap magazines anyway?

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First, the gun-control fundamentalists define “high capacity” as five rounds *less* than an 1866 Winchester held in the magazine, and ten rounds less than Lewis and Clark’s Girandoni rifle from the 1770’s held. Calling 11 to 20-round magazines “high capacity” is asinine.

And their stated goal is to outlaw 10-rounders too, and limit you to 7 (NY SAFE Act) and eventually 5 (Brady II).

Some of us lived through the 1994-2004 Feinstein ban (which greatly raised prices on pistol magazines), and we understand that magazines are consumable items that wear out and have to be replaced fairly regularly if you shoot much. My ex-wife paid over $100 each for ordinary 15-round magazines for her Glock during the Clinton era, and that price would have risen exponentially over decades to come had that asinine law not been repealed.

If a fundamentalist control freak is trying to compel you to go the rest of your life using *only* the magazines you already have, wouldn’t you ensure you had a lifetime supply, plus some for your descendants if you could afford to?

a huge mag sticking out of the mag well

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A 20-round metal AR magazine is quite small. And an 11- to 17-round pistol magazine fits flush with a pistol’s grip.

I'm pretty sure that the majority of the folks hoarding the hi-cap mags have never shot in any type of match.

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On the contrary, most competitive shooters I know use over-10-round magazines. I guess you wouldn’t in F-class benchrest, but most certainly do in most target disciplines. And what would be the point in buying a reduced-capacity magazine for your Smith & Wesson or Glock pistol, since going to a Feinstein-approved magazine saves you nothing in terms of size or weight?

AlexanderA said:

AR magazines are legitimate collectibles in themselves. For example, early Vietnam-era 30-round magazines with dark green followers with white numbers are rare and pricey, and their value has nothing to do with their utility as magazines. There was a progression after that to black followers, then light green ones, then tan ones, and so on. And there are all the variations in baseplate markings, etc. You could make a hobby of just collecting magazines.

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You do know that in the military magazines were disassembled for cleaning. Most often the magazine parts from several magazines were dumped into a bucket of soapy water and scrubbed clean. Then they were dried, reassemble with no regard to brand.