Gun finish, Beauty and its importance to you?

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So I see many post about how older guns finish was better and more beautiful. Especially in reference to rust blued guns. That new guns lack the fine finish of the old handcrafted guns. I have seen and held, even own a small number of those older guns and for the sake of this discussion I agree many of the older guns had a better finish. Certainly there were cheap guns "back-then" that did not have a good finish. Conversely you can still also find some new guns in the current market with that "old-time" finish if you're willing to pay. But yes the average quality/beauty of gun finish has decreased in recent years.

What I want to ask it how important is that "fine" finish to you?

Do you only buy old or more expensive guns that have that "old-time" finish? Do you buy modern guns as the modern design elements are more important than the beautiful finish? I would guess most of us mix that with some old-time fine finish guns and some guns with cheaper finishes (even if the gun is not cheap) because of the function. I am sure some of that mix also depends on the intended use for the gun. Collectors I suspect value the finish in general more than someone buying a gun to be used as a tool.

So how much does the beauty of the finish matter to you and when?
 
I love a good, old-fashioned deep bluing... but I'm generally not willing to pay a big premium for it. So I have a handful of older guns that have it, and a lot of more modern guns with stainless, hard chrome, or some kind of painted/coated finish. I mostly want guns that are fun to shoot and that shoot well.
 
I have a Rossi Plinker .22 revolver that has a truly beautiful finish. Rich deep blueing that it seems you could burying your finger in. It was made in 2012 and its a $300 gun... Amazing. I wish I had a pic that would do it justice

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One of my favorites is a beautiful patina all over. I like a beautiful blue gun as much as anyone, but I like utilitarian as well. One of my favorites to shoot is a parked Victory Model.
 
I can admire a good finish, and would take it if it came along, like DDD, but won't pay extra for it.
I am somewhat offended by painted $3000 guns and would probably get stainless if available on a new purchase. No finish to wear off, no refinish if I wanted to alter something.
 
I have some guns that are tools to me, function is priority and finish is not.

I have some guns that are “for looking at guns” I treat them like the art pieces they are, some have never even been fired.

I get enjoy all of them, get more use out of the ones that are not as aesthetically pleasing to the eye.
 
I am willing to pay a little more for a pristine old revolver with the old Colt level finish or Smith 27 level finish even though I know that the finish will be fleeting and ephemeral. Handguns are tools and meant to be used. That's life. I don't worry about such guns getting worn with use or scratched and scarred. That too is life. I'm not a fan of stainless steel over bluing so if their is a choice I'll almost always pick blued over stainless.

I'm not sure what "modern design elements" are but I haven't seen a new model handgun in the last twenty years except a very few of the mouse guns that I would consider buying.
 
We all love the polised, gleaming finish of a drawer full of Snap On wrenches... but we also appreciate the wear a set shows after years of honest use.

I, too love the look of finely polished and deeply blued steel, pretty walnut and the perfect checkering lines of a custom rifle or shotgun...but those are out of my financial reach.

If I can afford a nicley finished gun, or even a utilitarian one, I’ll buy it. Then I’ll use it and over time it’ll show the signs of honest wear... be it of stainless, coated or blued finish. :)

Stay safe!
 
"pretty" is in the eye of the beholder. For old school finishes, I often prefer (aesthetically) a well worn gun. It speaks to the life it had.

My current favorite pretty gun is my recently painted bolt rifle. It's got a fairly bright green (383 CARC-replacement) stock but it just works for my eyes, and I love it. It's very well painted, but is paint. "Fine finish" it is not.
 
I like the good, deep blueing of my Star Super B, my FEG AP22, and the Star something-or-other I handled at a gun show the other day. For those types of collectibles, I like a good finish, and will pay a bit more for it if I can.

However, there are some guns that just need a bit of character. The well-used Winchester 94 I bought earlier this year has probably just the right amount and, to me, it looks a lot better than the like-new one the same shop showed me last week. I would not have paid more for the "nicer" one had they both been there when I bought mine.

I despise rust, and I'll do what I can to prevent or eliminate it.
 
Too me it depends on the gun and it's use --- and age. I own a number of black powder repro cap 'n' ball revolvers. I like a nice colorful color case hardening, nice bluing, and such. On new modern guns I like an even bluing, don't really like "blingy" stuff or engraving. That said I have a 1950-era Browning Auto 5 with engraving I inherited, but those shotties came standard with that, I believe. On old guns wear is OK.
On new AR-15s and equivalent rifles, a nice matte black is appreciated. If there's a minor blemish, that's OK, I regard those as more utility type guns. They are not supposed to be pretty, they're supposed to WORK.
 
The truly beautiful guns I've owned are all gone---they just sat because I was always afraid of messing them up.

Stainless--polymer and matte finishes for me now mostly-----I do have a couple blued/walnut guns but the lower grade wood doesn't give me fits if it nicked or scratched because it was pretty plain to begin with.
 
Depends.
Honest wear and patina is something to be admired. It indicates useful service.
Firearms are also a legacy though.
A well maintained, beautiful gun is a source of pride and an indication of the character of the owner.
Much like keeping one's car clean and polished.

Take care of your stuff.
 
I have to say that I am a bit surprised by the posts so far. I expected a bit more posts leaning towards the finish/beauty being more important.

I agree with the general sentiment that a pretty gun is nice but I won't pay extra for it. I have one safe queen but all the rest are shooters.

Case in point I own six S&W revolvers and all but one was purchased used. Not because I am against the internal lock (it sucks but I will and do own one) or MIM parts ( I actually prefer MIM internals) but because for the price I get a good revolver that already has the pristine finish worn off. All of those revolvers are either carry, hunting, or competition guns. They get shot and carried all the time. Revolver shooters/collectors seem most obsessed with the old guns having the super nice finishes in my experience.

My guns, my tools, my vehicles, all show wear, honest wear. They are well cared for but at the same time they are well used. I don't clean my guns after every trip to the range but they always run, as they are well inspected and maintained. My favorite ax is marked from use and might have a touch of rust on it, the handle is dirty but the edge is sharpened frequently since its used frequently. My truck, I don't wax and polish it. It is more likely to be muddy than clean but you won't find trash in it (cab or bed) and it get regular oil changes, and all the other maintenance it requires.

Nothing's better than a tool that is ugly from honest wear, it stands tribute to the success and trials its user(s) have overcome.
 
Most of my guns were purchased used, and they show it. Some are walnut and blue, some are synthetic and Cerakote. Depends on the application. And I’m kind of partial to the finish on this one ...

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I want to be the one to wear finish off my firearms. My old Winchester Model 70 started life as a gorgeous gun, but now it's more so after way more than forty years of deer camps because of all the memories ... I specifically buy firearms (that are proven in terms of function, accuracy, ergonomics and reliability) because of their looks. And I use them all. My hunting guns are all blue steel and walnut. So are most of my revolvers. I'm pretty much old school, though I do own a handful of plastic striker-fired pistols and a plastic/stainless .22 rifle.
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So I see many post about how older guns finish was better and more beautiful. Especially in reference to rust blued guns. That new guns lack the fine finish of the old handcrafted guns. I have seen and held, even own a small number of those older guns and for the sake of this discussion I agree many of the older guns had a better finish. Certainly there were cheap guns "back-then" that did not have a good finish. Conversely you can still also find some new guns in the current market with that "old-time" finish if you're willing to pay. But yes the average quality/beauty of gun finish has decreased in recent years.

What I want to ask it how important is that "fine" finish to you?

Do you only buy old or more expensive guns that have that "old-time" finish? Do you buy modern guns as the modern design elements are more important than the beautiful finish? I would guess most of us mix that with some old-time fine finish guns and some guns with cheaper finishes (even if the gun is not cheap) because of the function. I am sure some of that mix also depends on the intended use for the gun. Collectors I suspect value the finish in general more than someone buying a gun to be used as a tool.

So how much does the beauty of the finish matter to you and when?

It depends...(of course it does;)) When I bought my Zastava .458, I bought into the romance of everything the rifle and the caliber's history was about. Africa, Australia, water buffalo, charging elephants. I wanted walnut and blued steel, Mauser action. The metal work was awesome, and the bluing was very good. The stock...meh. So I refinished the stock in my mind's eye of how it should look; deep rich tones of stained walnut.

My Savage 10, .243 Predator; fluted barrel. The whole camo, almost tacticool, bordering on sniper functionality theme took over. The rifle is a tool; "put that bullet in a half inch circle at 100 yards, and don't give away my position." No real romance, no heirloom quality.

My Vaqueros; one blued steel, the other polished stainless steel. There is a unique romance with each, but the blued steel makes you think of the old West; cattle drive, campfires and thunderstorms.

In my mind, nobody is going to moon over my Glock 23 and say, Remember this? Pa's Glock...it was always in his coyote tan nylon bug out bag,,," :rofl:

So, yes finish, blued steel and wood are special,and I do seek them out to a point; and I do pay extra for them.
 
We all love the polished, gleaming finish of a drawer full of Snap On wrenches... but we also appreciate the wear a set shows after years of honest use.

I find that sort of finish on tools purposeful. Grease and dirt tend to wipe right off. Less so with the partially unfinished forging of a Craftsman wrench.
 
My Glocks, AR's, and Mossbergs their finish is not important in regards to beauty.

Now everything else, that is not a defensive tool, I would prefer it to be attractive over a utilitarian look.
 
Me? I dont care. Guns are tools and dont have to be beautiful (though some of mine are).

My wife, on the other hand, buys pretty guns like nice stainless or old blued revolvers or her favorite Henry Golden Boy
 
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