cheygriz
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I prefer to slice my own bread!
That part is closer to being true than you might think. The round you are referring to is the 458 Socom. Its ballistics are identical to mid-level 45/70 loads, you can push a 405 gr at 1600 fps+ out of a 16" barrel in a semi-auto platform.
As far as the rest of your post and the other examples you gave, not everybody like the same thing. I love blue and wood guns but like the plastic ones too. I served in the Army so that is where I learned the AR. Is the the end all be all that some make it out to be, no. But it is a lot fun, lots of options, push 2 pins and switch calibers. Can be worked on, built by, and repaired by just about anyone with a little research.
There is no explanation for it. It exists, like oatmeal and the universe.
I get this, it will fill the pit, or scratch the itch, but if you have a choice of bacon and eggs, or oatmeal I know what I will choose.
After WW1, EVERYBODY who could afford a 1903 Springfield bought one. It was the thing to do. It was also a fine rifle.
After WW2, everybody wanted an M-1 Garand. It was the thing to have. Also a fine rifle
Today, it's the AR. Also a fine rifle.
If a cperson wants a rifle to hang over the mantle and admire as a piece of art, he buys a Sako, Weatherby, CZ etc.
If he wants a shooter to throw in the back of his pickup, he buys an AR.
Different people have different tastes. If someone gave me a rifle with deep blue metal and fine Walnut, I would send it to McMillan for a good synthetic stock and have the metal phosphated.
You like blue steel and Walnut. I like fibreglass and phosphate.
You pays yer money and you takes yer pick.
But what about those vegans out there? Those poor people can only eat oatmeal.
I will say that it can get a little bit out of hand how much emphasis is put on black rifles these days, but it’s what is selling so companies will chase it. And I’m all for it because the more ARs we can put in people’s hands the better because they are the stop gap for gun control. And we all know what happens if they get the ARs, next in line, their end game is all firearms.
Freedom of choice means one choice....as long as that choice is an AR platform.
I get that...pretend gunsmith.
Perhaps I am stuck in the past, I want something that will work, as well have class.....it seems many here are interested in no class....I guess I can get that. I have a hard time thinking in 100 years time people will be looking at an AR or glock and thinking wow I would really like to have one of those like they do looking at a Garand or 1903 to use examples already brought up.
But what about those vegans out there? Those poor people can only eat oatmeal.
Ok, you got me, I don't have much hands on experience with many modern designs, but I do have some experience with AUG's, and unless shooting from the opposite shoulder is a necessity for you, its hands down better ergo's than an AR. The Tavor SAR, is also more natural, and can be shot from either shoulder if thats a requirement.
To be honest, I'm just bitter. I've read for years how the AR is so ergonomic, and now that I finally broke down and got one, it simply does not meet the hype in that aspect. If you trained and fought with one, I understand you gain a keen familiarity with the rifle, and for those who like it, more power to ya, but unlike the internet would have you believe, the AR ergo's are not in fact the best thing since sliced bread.
stop being bitter and get educated
Kinda rude, maybe you're right though, I think my understanding of ergonomics is a little different, or at least has a different emphasis than yours. Not that you'd care, but you really haven't said anything to change my mind, just try not to be offended I don't think the AR is the end all of rifles, and dared to voice that opinion.