Should I buy a Hudson H9?

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Hey all,
Buddy of mine bought an h9 last summer. With the news of their bankruptcy he wants to dump it quick. He said i could buy it for $700, a considerable loss. I like the gun but likely wouldnt shoot it much for fear of damage, so whats the point? Think these will appreciate in value or be doomed to be obsolete and worthless? Im inclined to believe it will not gain value but ive been wrong before and missed great deals .
 
They had issues. Customer service was having issues before the bankruptcy. Likelihood of finding repair parts liw.

I recommend against buying it. Buy your buddy a couple of rounds of his favorite to help him get over being saddled with an Albatross.
 
I dont think the gun really gained any real notoriety besides going bankrupt. I could be wrong, but I dont see it garnering a cult following like many guns that were ahead of their time.

Then again, who knows. Maybe it'll triple in value. Investment is speculation. Pays yer monies. Takes yer chances.
 
There are plenty of poorly designed firearms that were produced in low numbers before the company went belly up. A lot of them aren't collectible at all. Think about the factors that make a firearm collectible...Poor quality and bad business practices leading to bankruptcy are rarely among them

As an example, hows the market for the USFA zip gun doing these days?
 
Thats what i mean, ya never know.

As an example, hows the market for the USFA zip gun doing these days?
Well as a conversation starter, i would actually like to have one. If it were $100.

Im well aware this thing isnt a shooter and not ideal as a collector either because it has been used and carried a little. I didnt know however a spankin new one could be had for $800. That makes it less interesting to me because if i did want it for a collection i would just pop for the NIB one. I just thought it was like $500 off msrp and maybe a good score. You guys made some good points. The one gun i passed on that i never forgot was a dragunov back in the early 2000s, $700 also and it was like new with extras. When i saw what they get for them now i was stunned. I think that was normal price back then, not sure. Never got into commie guns, but i still wish i would have gotten that one.
After seeing that a new one is $800, $700 doesnt seem like a good deal anymore.
Thanks again, i can always count on THR members for a wealth of info .
 
I think there may be some collector value in the future.

Last night i saw the InRange video stating some aftermarket suport may be comming.

I will find and post video.
 
Yeah. I gave 50 bucks for my first p30 (I traded a j-22 that I gave 50 for actually) . No one wanted them because the company was gone and no mags or parts existed AMD 22 mag costed too much....and they are junk.
I have a few of the 5mm remingtons no one wanted throughout the years because no ammo was made. Some even came from auctions. Never gave more than 75 dollars for one I dont think. Centurion started making ammo few years back so someone somewhere likes them, although they only bring a little more now.
I had a friend in the 90s offer me an inherited good condition Smith model 53 (iirc) in 22 jet for 150 dollars. Id never seen or heard of one. Sadly I loaned him the 150 because I didn't want to take the gun from him, (knowing I'd never get all my 150 back. Lol) and thought he would keep it. Bastard put it on a 150 dollar punch board though. If I'd known he didnt want the gun I'd have taken it.

I gave less for my bren than magazines currently sell for now. And all those were sold because some people wont have a gun they are afraid to use. Others wont have a gun they aren't afraid to use. I used to help a retired professor at his old homeplace near my house when he would come down, that collected old colts. Told me he hadnt fired any gun in 30 years. Nothing wrong with either. ..I'm somewhere between the two.

I dont regret any of them. They are conversation starters. Pondering why they failed, what they brought to the table. Just like that p30. It was a huge failure. But the same gun re-released 25 years later was a success. The bren ten...wasnt anything special, yet today companies are still wanting to resurrect it when better guns are made imo. Then the 22 jet...makes you wonder why the problems with the cartridge jamming up the cylinder weren't found by the company before release.
I have guns to shoot a lot, and I dont Care to get the ones mentioned above out when someone asks to use one, not like they were unfired or fragile, but they certainly wont be shot much. I get the feeling the op knew the gun was a liability as a shooter but was interested as a collector/ historian kind of deal.
But all that said I certainly never gave much for one. I bought them all for less than a cheap shooter at the time would have costed because they were no good to shoot, either because of flaws or lack of interest, or no ammo availability. (Or a combination).
 
I had this conversation on another board recently, when grab-a-gun had a lot come though they were selling for $499 (IIRC.) The basic consensus was, @ $500 (or higher) for a troubled gun I'd pass. $400 I'd consider hard. $300 and I'd be all over it, even if it has the distinct chance to become inoperable. It was a neat design overall and a lot of people liked the way it shoots, but they got bit by the too small to in-house all the bits problem. Ian had a good video on this, I thought...



also one of Hudson's suppliers says they have parts unpaid for by Hudson, and are willing to sell them to people.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/03/27/hudson-parts/
 
IAN: "Im told there are people out there still using discontinued guns from a hundred years ago."

Carl : "Thats absurd

Guess carl doesn't follow cowboy action shooting at all.


Another thing to note is that with advancements and low prices of CNC and metal working equipment, it wouldn't exactly be impossible to make or repair a part these days especially if one has the originals. Milling machines, lathes, etc are not uncommon. Certainly not as expensive or hard as having a part made 30 or 40 years ago. I restore old cars and I can tell you that many of the great restoration guys (not me by any means) can duplicate anything made of metal in their basement if they want too. My family is middle class at best (and in a poor area at that) and I have mig/tig/arc/plasma cutter/milling machine etc. I know guys who have far more. For years we made pieces for tractors and farm equipment ourselves. Not so much now as anything can be found at TSC for about 37 cents. Lol.
 
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Firearms speculation is a low margin investment.

Even 401k will generally get higher yield.

So for pure investment, heck no. As an interesting firearms curiosity, absolutely. For the right price.
 
Firearms speculation is a low margin investment.

Even 401k will generally get higher yield.

So for pure investment, heck no. As an interesting firearms curiosity, absolutely. For the right price.

Yeah...exactly what It took me about 10k words to say. I like your way better. Lol I never was great with words. I can say more with a mean look than with a novel. Not terribly useful in a forum though.

I certainly wouldn't replace my 401/403/gold/silver/savings ot whatever you choose to retire on with a pile of cheap whitney/grendel/dornaus&dixon/or Hudson's.
 
Look, if I knew I could get replacement parts, I'd buy another one myself at the prices they're selling for now. I really love shooting mine. But I'm starting to notice things that make me think it's about to start having the problems that others had to send theirs in for, so I've stopped shooting it for now.

What I'd really like to see is a known quality machine shop make replacements for the factory MIM parts that are known to fail on the H9, and offer them to owners. That, and to get one of the H9A frames that KE says they're going to offer for sale eventually...
 
I'd just feel fortunate I didn't drop over $1k to be a beta tester with no future support and move on.
 
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