Had to make sure this was in General Discussions and not Legal before I continue.
Sorry guys’
I just struggle with these Shooting’s and senseless loss of life, my heart goes out to the families and first responders whose life’s are changed forever.
J
Jim, I would think there is not one member on this board that wouldn't agree with the statement you made above. It is senseless, and our hearts are there with the families and secondary responders. This goes without saying, however the freedoms afforded by the constitution never come without a cost. I'm not trying to be hard on you with this post Jim, just giving perspective, I hope you don't take it that way.
The 2nd Amendment is crucial to the upholding of the constitution, just look at where the colonists would have been had they not had private weapons to mount a revolution against the British, or look to
recent history Venezuela that banned private gun ownership whose citizenry now regret allowing to happen (
https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/30/venezuela-gun-ban-regret-maduro/), or to the Jews & Pols in Hitler's reign (
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/how-nazis-used-gun-control-stephen-p-halbrook/), or to Russian intellectuals during the push west 'Road of Bones' (
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...4085/Road-of-Bones-where-slaves-perished.html), Russians under Stalin and Communism (
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...tremendous-success-for-socialist-state-video/)
To think that these things above which are only an
abbreviation as to the harm that the dissolution of public freedoms can lead to cannot happen in American is fool hardy.
I'm not saying you don't feel the same way; sometimes we just need to be reminded what is at stake when tragedy happens. Our freedoms we enjoy in this country are always at a cost. Whether it be from the blood of patriots who have served their country with their blood, limbs, mental state or even their lives. Or the cost of persons utilizing their freedom of speech to denigrate others, promote hate and discord; or undermine the sovereignty of the nation. All freedoms come at a cost. I believe that pro-2A gun owners have a huge desire to alleviate some of the problems that are occurring with the use of firearms,
but solutions cannot lead to the dissolution of the 2nd Amendment. My heart goes out to those men, women and children that were caught in the crosshairs of
evil; but the heart of man is deceitful and wicked so says the Lord, who can understand it? We will always have evil in different forms and we should always fight against it.
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.” Patrick Henry
“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” Noah Webster
The Founding Fathers knew we would be faced with such events which is why they were abundantly clear in the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
If we take personal responsibility out of the equation and place the blame on manufacturers of objects, to what end does this road take us? That is the position this thread topic is discussing, not whether or not people sympathize or mourn with those effected by the tragedies. I'm sorry that loved ones were lost in those tragedies but suing a bystander company with no involvement in the act for monetary gain in the shadow of the evil that was perpetrated is something else. When it comes down to it, the people who are suing I feel are not pro-2A (or are being led astray by emotions or an activist group) and we need to recognize this action as such and try and provide guidance to just what is at stake when we start legislating freedoms away.