Hog huntin Harry
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How difficult would it be to shoot a bolt action rifle without any sights whatsoever ?
Rifle shooting without sights
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troy fairweather
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Depend how far and how accurate you want. I've seen a lot of 22 rifles that were used in small boats many times there sights are missing. My old Remington 33 was a trappers gun the sights were taken off, I shot it before i put some sights on. I was hitting soda cans at 10 yards quite easily.
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someguy2800
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I’ve done it a couple times, with some practice you can hit stuff. The front sight is the most important. A shotgun with a front bead only is not difficult to hit milk jugs at 50 yards with foster slugs.
edwardware
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At best, I guess a sightless rifle might compete with a snubby pistol for accuracy. Best to treat it like a vent rib shotgun less the run and bead; sight the barrel and go.
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I’ve been shooting a Marlin 99M1 for a couple decades without any sights, and a decade longer even without the rear sight and only with the front sight. It’s not a 1moa at 100yrds proposition, but it’s been killing rabbits, squirrels, and cans for a long time for me. My dad lost the rear sight when he was in high school, and shot with the rifle with only the front sight for over a decade before giving me the rifle. The front sight fell off while I was in high school, and I just didn’t need to put it back on.
Not so different than shooting a recurve bow without sights. Very challenging at first, with a steep learning curve, but after considerable practice, moderate successes can be achieved.
Not so different than shooting a recurve bow without sights. Very challenging at first, with a steep learning curve, but after considerable practice, moderate successes can be achieved.
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Hog huntin Harry
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Cause I don't have a scope for my 308 and I won't be able to afford one for a while. I was wanting to know if I could thump pigs at about 35 yards.
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Hog huntin Harry
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I do have a Weaver on it I could aim through
troy fairweather
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I am sure we can find you a scope.
adcoch1
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Had an old abused arisaka that had been chambered in 308. Got it for about 25 bucks at a gun show. No sights. But I'll be darned if I couldn't hit milk jugs at 50 yards or more just by pointing it. It was fun. Then I lost it and a few other things in the divorce.
Moral of the story: don't need sights to walk in fire, and don't marry a crazy girl no matter how good she looks...
Moral of the story: don't need sights to walk in fire, and don't marry a crazy girl no matter how good she looks...
Dean C
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I used to "point shoot" my 22 Lever out to about 30-40 yds. with fairly good accuracy. My son and I would swap shots with my son on a pop can and keep it moving. He was accurate too.
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Hog huntin Harry
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I greatly appreciate the offer but I'd have to graciously decline.
I'd rather learn how to shoot without sights since most of my shooting will be under 50 yards.
someguy2800
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Hitting a pig at 50 yards with no sights at all is going to require more 308 practice ammo than a cheap scope costs. I have a couple cheap older scopes that I took off rifles I've bought off the used shelf. I would be more than happy to send you one if you PM me your address. I have random scope rings too and I think I have a cheap red dot kicking around. When your done with it find someone else who needs it and give it to them.
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Hog huntin Harry
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I genuinely appreciate your offer, but a scope would be better use as food for African children than in my possession.
Killing an animal, pest or game, should be done as quickly and humanely as possible. I don't care if you are using an atlatl, bow, pistol, or rifle. Wounding and animal is not acceptable. You've had two offers from members to send you a scope for your rifle, but have turned them down for whatever reason. Please reconsider this, and make sure your kills are clean and quick. Heck, any gunsmith can add iron sights if you prefer.
243winxb
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Instinct shooting, referred to as "Quick Kill ", was taught to the U.S. Army using rifles by Lucky McDaniel as far back as the 1960s. McDaniel also taught his point shooting techniques to the police, but using BB guns. Point firing, or instinctive shooting, with rifles developed as a result of direct combat experiences.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shooting
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_shooting
I remembered this, so i googled it.
I point shoot with my duty pistol out to about 10y. It absolutely can be done. But I don't care about the person trying to kill or harm me or others. They get what they get.
Animals, even pests, get killed as quick as possible. But that's just me.
bassjam
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It sounds like your 308 is a perfect candidate for a red dot. It's one thing to teach yourself to shoot a .22 without sights since the rounds are dirt cheap. But by the time you have enough practice in with a .308 to be comfortable humanely killing a pig you may have surpassed the cost of a cheap red dot.
Dave DeLaurant
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Chuck Connors made it look pretty easy on TV.
I've mostly done this when checking function on a rifle partway through a project -- usually I can keep the hits somewhere inside a paper plate up to 20 yards or so. Come to think on it, I shoot a rifle minus sights about as well as a handgun with them.
I'll chime in with the red dot recommendations -- start with an entry-level Bushnell TRS-25 for about $80. That's about the price of two boxes of decent lead-free hunting ammo these days.
I've mostly done this when checking function on a rifle partway through a project -- usually I can keep the hits somewhere inside a paper plate up to 20 yards or so. Come to think on it, I shoot a rifle minus sights about as well as a handgun with them.
I'll chime in with the red dot recommendations -- start with an entry-level Bushnell TRS-25 for about $80. That's about the price of two boxes of decent lead-free hunting ammo these days.
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