Why is there a gun and ammo panic now?

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As said, I think this one goes deeper. I’m seeing my anti-2A neighbors buying guns (in fact, I’ve helped to guide a few of them towards proper storage devices). With new guns, comes new ammo. There is a disruption in a global routine...stay-at-home orders, restricted shopping, closures.....as well as a general fear of illness and resource shortages. This causes panic. Some respond by preparing further/more intensely and some respond by throwing societal norms out the window. Driving around to a few groceries yesterday (stores had plenty of TP, btw....I didn’t even bother buying), you would have thought the Toe Cutter was driving every other car. You can sense the panic. Although Ohio’s LGS are considered essential, the lines have been so bad that they are closing their doors and selling on-line with parking lot pick-up. I’m in healthcare and my panic is real and earned. My panic comes from when (not if) Covid-19 hits my facilities, how long will it be before too many staff are sick and can’t take care of the patients. Picture our soldiers knowing about the attack on Pearl Harbor for a month in advance, re-routing the anti-aircraft to the European Front and issuing each soldier one clip of ammo for their Garand. That being said, you would be amazed at the vast numbers of $12/hour nurse aides still coming to work each day, putting themselves and their families at risk to care for people. Brings a tear to the eye.
 
I have a pet peeve and it is those who own firearms but do nothing to protect their right to do so. Granted the right to keep and bear arms should not need defending however the reality is that it does.
With gun ownership ranging from 80 million to 120 million the vast majority of them are leeches relying on the rest of us to protect their rights. I personally give around 500 dollars anually to various gun rights organizations and it pisses me off that I have all those dead beats attached to my back.
 
I have a pet peeve and it is those who own firearms but do nothing to protect their right to do so. Granted the right to keep and bear arms should not need defending however the reality is that it does.
With gun ownership ranging from 80 million to 120 million the vast majority of them are leeches relying on the rest of us to protect their rights. I personally give around 500 dollars anually to various gun rights organizations and it pisses me off that I have all those dead beats attached to my back.


Agreed 100%...Patriot Life Member of the NRA....member of VCDL.... My hope is that new owners will see the light....will see that when adult problems exist, we need adult options to deal with them. I remain hopeful.
 
There’s lots of reasons to be worried. Releasing prisoners into the streets with no chance of employment and scarce groceries. Where do they get the money to live and buy drugs? By stealing. Which is something several law enforcement agencies no longer respond to.

Add to that fewer cops, as they get sick with the virus. It’s not hard to see law and order breaking down. In a nearby town, a woman in her 50’s was beaten and robbed of her groceries in a grocery store parking lot. She was hurt enough to be hospitalized and I haven’t seen where the perps have been arrested.

And then there’s the question of IF the local gun store can or will stay open. Scheels is a big store, like Cabelas, and the one near me is completely closed. Apparently because of emergency city ordinances. Several other gun stores are shuttered or have curbside only. I had a gun on layaway before all of this mess. I’m not going to leave it on layaway, taking the chance that the lgs is forced to close or go out of business.

And then there’s the food supply. Grocery stores say they are closing early to clean and restock. The next morning you check and the shelves are still empty. Why? The trucks didn’t come in. Why? Dunno, maybe tonight. If this nonsense keeps going then things are going to get very ugly.
 
Most 2A dead beats are just ignorant. When I was young I got a bit of advice from an old timer but none of it had to do with supporting our second amendment. It took me several years to realize how important 2A is.

Maybe those of us who are enlightened should mention to the newbies more often how delicate our rights are. Maybe too many of us mind our own business.
 
Hoping most 2A dead beats do come around like my wife did at some point. I was the enlightened that forced her to get her CCW and learn and train. Though not being as regularly as I would like, I have no worries of her having to stand and fight if need be. She has been even more so vigilant about carrying this year as she is usually comfortable with not carrying. Sometimes it takes crazy times to make people have a shift in their thought process.

At the end of the day its still a too each his own type of world, so I really don't worry about the next person just what I believe and stand for and do what I can to protect that.
 
I was asked why I ordered more bullets when tp, bread, and milk should be higher priority. We have 10 rolls still, regularly dump milk down the drain and throw out bread that expired without ever being opened. Don't tell anyone pizza rolls are hard to find or I'm screwed.

If I were in your shoes I would adjust my buying habits to quit wasting money on milk and bread I don't use and have to throw away and spend said money on even more bullets. :evil:
 
I have a pet peeve and it is those who own firearms but do nothing to protect their right to do so. Granted the right to keep and bear arms should not need defending however the reality is that it does.
With gun ownership ranging from 80 million to 120 million the vast majority of them are leeches relying on the rest of us to protect their rights. I personally give around 500 dollars anually to various gun rights organizations and it pisses me off that I have all those dead beats attached to my back.
I can tolerate the free loaders riding on my back more than I can the "gun rights" clowns hiding in the bushes and throwing trip hazards in front of the ones TRYING to do good work.
 
I can tolerate the free loaders riding on my back more than I can the "gun rights" clowns hiding in the bushes and throwing trip hazards in front of the ones TRYING to do good work.
Or the ones who do not vote and then whine because something like VA happened to them.

If you do not vote, don't complain about the government you get, especially when it comes to losing your rights and freedoms!
 
I'm a guy that used to belong to the NRA, but doesnt anymore because I see them as a corrupt lobbyist group that has lost sight of what I, personally, view as their fundamental mission. However, that's a debate for another time. I will tout the virtues of the Second to anyone who will listen and back up arguements with facts as to why it is crucial and culturally "American".

That said, people getting firearms now or this passive owners that have not supported the 2ndA are not deadbeats. They just aren't single issue voters or have other things going on in their lives that do not pertain to firearms. I'm sure they get bent out if shape over other amendments that some of you dont give 2 thoughts about. They live in a bubble of false security and WE live in an echo chamber where we Hurumph our righteous understanding of all things firearm importance.

I dont mean to be a jerk...well, maybe a little bit, but it worries me when in see groups, ANY groups, circling their wagons and we/them-ing other folks right now. It's not dead beats who have earned an I Told You So vs smarty pants gun guys. We're Americans. ALL of us. And this virus and the trickle down ramifications of what means to our society doesnt care about that.

So, what I plan on doing is using my much more limited knowledge compared to most here to answer any questions, concerns, or mitigate any anxieties new gun owners or very casual gun owners may have. People are nervous and it seems thousands of people have just purchased a very dangerous totem to help sooth that which they have limited instruction in caring for and operating safely. I think it's our duty as their fellow countrymen well versed in firearms to be a resource in understanding the eminence responsibility of this God given right they are choosing to enact.
 
There’s lots of reasons to be worried. Releasing prisoners into the streets with no chance of employment and scarce groceries. Where do they get the money to live and buy drugs? By stealing. Which is something several law enforcement agencies no longer respond to.

Add to that fewer cops, as they get sick with the virus. It’s not hard to see law and order breaking down. In a nearby town, a woman in her 50’s was beaten and robbed of her groceries in a grocery store parking lot. She was hurt enough to be hospitalized and I haven’t seen where the perps have been arrested.

And then there’s the question of IF the local gun store can or will stay open. Scheels is a big store, like Cabelas, and the one near me is completely closed. Apparently because of emergency city ordinances. Several other gun stores are shuttered or have curbside only. I had a gun on layaway before all of this mess. I’m not going to leave it on layaway, taking the chance that the lgs is forced to close or go out of business.

And then there’s the food supply. Grocery stores say they are closing early to clean and restock. The next morning you check and the shelves are still empty. Why? The trucks didn’t come in. Why? Dunno, maybe tonight. If this nonsense keeps going then things are going to get very ugly.

Grocery stores do not get deliveries of every item every day. If a store gets a delivery Fri morning, that same store will not get a delivery on Sat ( another store from the chain will get a Sat delivery).

If everyone panic buys on Fri than the store will look empty on Fri night. Since they don't get a delivery on Sat the store will continue to look empty until the next delivery.
 
In my seventh decade, veteran of one war and several kiss your backside social/political/economic events there is very little in human nature that now surprises me. With the current relentless 24/7 news cycle its the equivalent of psychological warfare being waged on the general population. Its the equal of the unknowing (elected-things-CYA-) telling the general population to take curtain preventative measures that is on the verge of destroying the nations economy.
 
Grocery stores do not get deliveries of every item every day. If a store gets a delivery Fri morning, that same store will not get a delivery on Sat ( another store from the chain will get a Sat delivery).

If everyone panic buys on Fri than the store will look empty on Fri night. Since they don't get a delivery on Sat the store will continue to look empty until the next delivery.

I know that, and they are often still empty. It’s not the delivery cycle, it’s the trucks not coming in.

And now I see where , in addition to Scheels and Sportsman’s Warehouse, the local Cabela’s is now closed. There seems to be something beyond a quarantine going on here.
 
I know that, and they are often still empty. It’s not the delivery cycle, it’s the trucks not coming in.

And now I see where , in addition to Scheels and Sportsman’s Warehouse, the local Cabela’s is now closed. There seems to be something beyond a quarantine going on here.
I heard a trucker on a talk radio call in saying that in some states they're shutting down the rest areas! They can only drive so long and with nowhere to rest they're having trouble getting from here to there.
 
Grocery stores do not get deliveries of every item every day. If a store gets a delivery Fri morning, that same store will not get a delivery on Sat ( another store from the chain will get a Sat delivery).

If everyone panic buys on Fri than the store will look empty on Fri night. Since they don't get a delivery on Sat the store will continue to look empty until the next delivery.

Many grocery stores receive multiple trucks a day. Some things are stocked by outside vendors, like bread, soda, beer, and such.

I guess it depends on the size of the store. A small store might get two trucks a week. A store like a Super HEB gets trucks every day.
 
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