Narrow down two choices on single stage press

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Looking to add another single stage press to the bench.
I think I have it narrowed down to one of the following.
MEC Marksman https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018146888
Hornady Iron Press https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101693119?pid=353329

Both meet my needs, they're essentially in the same price group. Both seemingly get excellent reviews in the reloading/precision circles considering the price point. I'm 100% sure I don't need a $900 Turban CNC or ATRS and not going to jump on the Co-Ax bandwagon yet.

Looking for input from anyone who has either and any pros or cons you have found after using them regularly on your bench.

Appreciate any input for anyone.
 
If I had to choose one of those, it would be the Hornady for two reasons. 1)Legendary customer service and 2) LNL bushings for quick die changes but I didn't choose either one when it came down to opening my wallet.

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I have no experience with the hornady, but I love my MEC. If you get it, buy the riser .
 
MEC Marksman. It has a floating shellholder and improves concentricity during bullet seating and crimping, also reduces drag and pressures for thin wall cases like the .22 Hornet or .32-20. Hold off on it for a little while as Midway runs sales for the MEC at around $180 occasionally.

IMO, the Co-Ax is a unique and complex design, but that doesn't make it a superior design. It does make it more expensive, but the features that it has, like the integral priming system and the easy die changes, don't really add much value to the press at the price it costs. It takes maybe one minute to change a die in a standard press, it's not worth spending $180 more to reduce that to a few seconds, again IMO.
 
My question would be what calibers are you going to load? What are your plans for the press??Bench rest shooting? Do you want to prime on the press?
 
My question would be what calibers are you going to load? What are your plans for the press??Bench rest shooting? Do you want to prime on the press?
Primarily rifle. Anything from 220, 222, 223, 6, 6.5, 7mm, 308, 338, 450, 45-70, and a few others.
Resizing and seating.
I decap on another press. (dirty vs. clean)
No priming. I do all my priming off press.

Perhaps another point of interest is I would *not* use the LNL bushings as I'm not a huge fan of them due to using dies in multiple presses that I can't use that system in. (Redding turret press for example) It works great, but not for me in my setup. So I'd swap that out for the threaded bushing as found in the RCBS Rock Chuckers.
 
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There are many single stage presses out there
I gather than you like the "open" front design as your reason for picking these two?

I have a Hornady LnL Ap and it is a great press, Can't go wrong with Hornady. The MEC looks fine also, but I know nothing about them.
 
RCBS or Redding. Lyman has very poor C.S. and Lee is made too cheaply.
Agreed. Have one of each. And have experienced Lyman's CS first hand. Once was enough.

There are many single stage presses out there
I gather than you like the "open" front design as your reason for picking these two?
Essentially, yes. I like the open face design, the rigidity and the overall access / functionality.
I have two other single stage (RCBS and Redding) as well a couple turret style presses. So I was kind of leaning this direction and gathering input from others who use them is always helpful versus the "this press is *GREAT*" youtube from a guy who had it sent to him at no charge for a review.
 
I’m trying a MEC now and so far I like it. I’ve been using a CH press forever and I’ll decide which one to keep over the next couple of months. MEC has been around a long time, so I don’t see parts or service as an issue. This is their first press for metallic cartridges, but they are certainly a major force in shotshell reloading.

I’ve got it mounted on an In-line Fabrication stand and would recommend you buy a stand with it. MEC makes their own, but I already had the Inline so I just had to buy another plate.
 
Well, that's a tough decision. The Hornady weighs over 10 lbs more so it's the heavier duty of the two. It may have a larger frame opening but neither press shows what the frame opening is in the add.
It doesn't look like the Hornady is capable of using just a threaded die without the bushing on it.
The Hornady also says it has no primer collection system on it. I don't have either of these so I would have to find out from Hornady if a collection system is available for it.
The Mec looks like a good solid press also.
I'm a Hornady guy so for me the decision would be clear. The 28 lb press over the 17lb press, but you better check with Hornady because from the picture the it looks like you have no choice but use the LNL bushing with the Hornady.
That may be the deciding factor for your process if you don't want to consider any other brand.
 
I’ve got it mounted on an In-line Fabrication stand and would recommend you buy a stand with it. MEC makes their own, but I already had the Inline so I just had to buy another plate.
Agreed. I have the inline stand on my Dillon and my other workstation / area for other presses to swap on and off.

you better check with Hornady because from the picture the it looks like you have no choice but use the LNL bushing with the Hornady.
That may be the deciding factor for your process if you don't want to consider any other brand.
Spoke with them this am and confirmed it is threaded for their LNL bushing system which can be removed and an RCBS like bushing can be used to use 7/8"x14 dies.
 
If you are indeed an MD, then you'll appreciate that the MEC press routes the spent primer and all its smut down though the center of the ram, where you can attach a hose that is routed to a sealed, 5-gallon container. Not only will you be able to re-cycle your brass primers, but you won't need to be handling or breathing the 'smut' that contains some lead and mercury.

Some Redding presses also have this feature.
 
Spoke with them this am and confirmed it is threaded for their LNL bushing system which can be removed and an RCBS like bushing can be used to use 7/8"x14 dies.
That's really good to know. I would definitely go with the Hornady of those two then. You will be getting more for your money, 10 +lbs more.
Just check around on shipping costs or wait until Midway is shipping for free on orders over $49.00. (For either one you choose).
I don't like straying from what the post is about, Mec vs Hornady, but with what your loading I wouldn't exclude the Lee Classic Cast Turret press. It's a little different with indexing the turret automatically, but you can take out the indexing bar and run it like a traditional single stage press if you want to.

It's a good solid press that should really shine with the calibers your loading. Just a suggestion, not telling you what to do.
 
That's really good to know. I would definitely go with the Hornady of those two then. You will be getting more for your money, 10 +lbs more.
Just check around on shipping costs or wait until Midway is shipping for free on orders over $49.00. (For either one you choose).
I don't like straying from what the post is about, Mec vs Hornady, but with what your loading I wouldn't exclude the Lee Classic Cast Turret press. It's a little different with indexing the turret automatically, but you can take out the indexing bar and run it like a traditional single stage press if you want to.

It's a good solid press that should really shine with the calibers your loading. Just a suggestion, not telling you what to do.

Well if we are gonna drift to "turrets" and the OP has lots of presses, and does.nt like the Lnl bushing I would get a Redding T7. He can leave 7 dies all set up and just seat or whatever on it.:)
 
Of the two, I'd go with the Hornady. It has the lock n load feature which is nice and it's a beast, they've also been in the game for a while. I don't like the handle setup on the MEC and as for the floating head, I don't know if that's important. I mean, these presses are supposed to be straight and square, right? What's the floating head supposed to compensate for?
 
Hornady. . .
Since so many are praising the Hornady quick-change system, let me add: it's stupid.

1) Unless you're changing dies 100 times a day, you save almost no time.
2) You're supposed to buy their high-price bushings.
3) Once bushings are on your dies, they won't fit in any of your boxes.
4) If you just put a bushing in the press, it will try to back out when you unscrew a die.

So, they're dumb.
 
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^ that’s one thing I like about the co-ax, quick change and all you need is the lock ring so they go back in the box they came out of, you don’t even need a shell holder.

That said one could make a bushing stay in place if they wanted to. FWIW the MEC has one too. Part #4 on page 5 here.

https://www.mecoutdoors.com/Content/documents/MEC-MARKSMAN-INSTRUCTIONS.pdf

In the end, just get the press that “floats your boat”, the dies you use will make more difference than what press they are used in.
 
I used JB Weld and a bushing in my LNL Classic turning it into a tradition threaded press.

Those bushings are the biggest money grab scam in reloading. I truly don't get why people buy those things. It takes all of 10 seconds or less to screw a die in or out.
 
How they handle spent primers is certainly worthy of your consideration.
I have a Rockchucker 4 and a Hornady LNL AP. I do virtually all my de-capping on the LNL AP b/c the spent primers drop through the center of the ram down through a hose.
I have 'aftermarket' primer collector's for the 'chucker. They catch 99.9% of the primers, but the carbon/grit etc still pukes out.

I have the LNL bushings in / on everything I own. They fit fine in my Hornady Die boxes, require a little creativity in my RCBS die boxes, but 'not so much' in the few LEE boxes I have. I also tend to prefer the little 'give' the bushings provide during die-case alignment vs. having the die locked up tighter than snot. (Somewhat similar to 'all the fuss' you hear about certain presses w/floating dies/floating shell holders being superior,,,)
 
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1) Unless you're changing dies 100 times a day, you save almost no time.
But every time that you do change dies, you're doing in in 1/20 of the time...so it's 80% faster

This isn't speculation, this is from experience. I use the bushings on a LNL AP and I change the position of the dies on the head at a whim because it is so fast compared to unscrewing them from my Dillon 750. On a single stage press, you'd have to change dies for every operation as you go through the different stages of the process, so we're talking 4-5 changes to complete the process. 5 times 80% is 400% faster

2) You're supposed to buy their high-price bushings.
I don't think $4 per bushing really falls under the category of "high priced." Even at $16 for a four die set isn't excessive...it would hardly buy a decent dinner out

3) Once bushings are on your dies, they won't fit in any of your boxes.
They fit perfectly in the Hornady die box.

4) If you just put a bushing in the press, it will try to back out when you unscrew a die.
The bushing is meant to be secured to a die, not in the press
 
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