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Bit by mailorder (again?)

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So, I finally found a Mossberg MVP, 223/556, ordered and received it and finally got to shoot it, yesterday, BUT..yikes, the iron sights aren't on the 12 oclock centerline of the barrel..they are both at about 12:15 oclock..front and rear. The rifle IS accurate but...anybody else seen this? Is this a trip to Mossberg(I emailed them yesterday)...Yes, I took them off and looked but the 'hole' for each just isn't on the centerline.

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Canted sights. Manufacturing misalignment. Not sure I would have caught that at the LGS, unless I was specifically looking for it. I wouldn't say necessarily bit by mail order. Send back to the Mothership.



Now that's funny! :D
It’s those new offset sights all the kool kids are running so you can switch between scope and irons by just tilting the rifle.

You usually have to pay extra to get those...

BSW
 
Sorry about the problem. That stinks!
I hope Mossberg takes care of their problem that became your inconvenience.

I never had to use Mossberg's customer service, but how they handle issues is the true sign of a quality company.
Good luck,
 
Sorry about the problem. That stinks!
I hope Mossberg takes care of their problem that became your inconvenience.

I never had to use Mossberg's customer service, but how they handle issues is the true sign of a quality company.
Good luck,
I agree..hope there isn't an issue that I got it MailOrder..and hope they also provide a call tag/label. Ginormous box, with 'Mossberg' all over it..not sure sending it with the obvious 'Mossberg' all over it is a good idea...I'll let ya know what Mossberg says.
 
Hmm ... the MVP uses a barrel nut system, right? At a guess, I'd say Mossberg tweaked the headspace after the sights were installed. They may be able to just loosen the nut and recenter the sights -- I doubt that small a rotational change would change headspace significantly.
Don't know..I DID get an email asking for proof of purchase, serial number, pictures..one here..since the sight is canted in relation to rail and labeling..I don't think it's a barrel install issue.. IMG_4815.JPG
 
id id probably just pop the nut and realign the sights, unless headspace is tight enough to make chambering a round difficult.
 
hmmm. I bought a brand new bolt action mossberg 12ga slug gun years ago. After sighting in, the rear sight was way off center. The rear sight was drifted way to left, and it left the adjustment tang sticking out, looking for a snag. I only had that gun a few years and then sold it. I did nail a mountable 9pt buck the one year I took it hunting.
 
That’s one issue I just don’t understand. A visual inspection by the QC people would catch it. I had the same issue with a Ruger 22/45 ten years ago.
Sent proof of purchase and pictures to Mossberg..it came with a scope, which is unusual for this model..particularly for the $..gotta wonder if it was a second and they put the scope on it to 'hide' the mis-installed sights....
 
I agree with loonwolf. I wouldn't want to wait for who knows how long to get it back.
With all the political garbage we're dealing with, shipping is slow.
 
It’s those new offset sights all the kool kids are running so you can switch between scope and irons by just tilting the rifle.

You usually have to pay extra to get those...

BSW

Or tilting the handgun. Ruger 2.5X rifle scope mounted offset in Weaver swing mount. About 1959, when I was about 16. I shot it by placing it in the crook of my left arm and tilting it. It shot very nicely. It would pivot to the left from this position, so the irons could be used. The scope could also be removed.
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I agree with loonwolf. I wouldn't want to wait for who knows how long to get it back.
With all the political garbage we're dealing with, shipping is slow.
Got a response from Mossberg..in spite of the pretty obvious pictures(to me anyway), Mossberg says 'my eyes are playing tricks on me'..but send it in if you wish(my $) and we'll get it back in about 2 MONTHS..gadzooks. Gonna show it to a local gunsmith, see what he says..I see tho, the barrel is screwed into the receiver(see the threads when take bolt out)..maybe just 'tighten' the barrel a 1/10 or less of a turn?
 
Another question for this new guy to rifles..so I just take the(crooked) iron sights off...picatinny rail options..if I don't want a scope?
 
Got a response from Mossberg..in spite of the pretty obvious pictures(to me anyway), Mossberg says 'my eyes are playing tricks on me'..but send it in if you wish(my $) and we'll get it back in about 2 MONTHS..gadzooks. Gonna show it to a local gunsmith, see what he says..I see tho, the barrel is screwed into the receiver(see the threads when take bolt out)..maybe just 'tighten' the barrel a 1/10 or less of a turn?
So the barrel is screwed into the receiver, and then locked in place by the "barrel nut", that collar thing forward of the receiver. Its threaded also, and works like a jamb nut to keep your barrel from coming out.

Lossening the nut, and turning the barrel till the sights are vertical will reduce the distance from your bolt face, to the datum line in your chamber. Effectively reducing headspace.
This isnt a problem as long as you can still get fully sized, or factory rounds into the chamber with little or no effort.
On my RAM that much of a turn would cause it to be tight, but your gun maybe different, and its the easiest fix.

The OTHER problem you may get, tho unlikely with that little a rotation, is the barrel actually contacting thr bolt head. Again, unlikely but possible.

The final fix for the reduced headspace would be to simply have your smith then ream the chamber to depth once the sights are where you want them.

For bolt head contact, the breach end of the barrel would need to be shortened a few thousands.....which ive done very carefully on a belt sander, but the proper method would be having it chucked up in a lathe.
 
Another question for this new guy to rifles..so I just take the(crooked) iron sights off...picatinny rail options..if I don't want a scope?
As in slaping back up sights ON the pic rail? If so yes, you can do that, but your sight radius will be about the same as a handgun. If going that route id recommend a red dot or low/no power scope, or prism sight.
 
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As in slaping back up sights ON the pic rail? If so yes, you can do that, but your sight radius will be about the same as a handgun. If going that route id recommend a red dot or low/no power scope, or prism sight.
Thanks..son has a red dot he's going to lend me to see. The 'crooked' sights work fine, the rifle is accurate..just the OCD, seeing those things crooked bugs me.
 
Got a response from Mossberg..in spite of the pretty obvious pictures(to me anyway), Mossberg says 'my eyes are playing tricks on me'..but send it in if you wish(my $) and we'll get it back in about 2 MONTHS..gadzooks. Gonna show it to a local gunsmith, see what he says..I see tho, the barrel is screwed into the receiver(see the threads when take bolt out)..maybe just 'tighten' the barrel a 1/10 or less of a turn?


Not a very endearing CS response. A couple ideas to try and force their hand:

1) retake the photo with a straight cleaning rod laid on top of the rail to show the misalignment more clearly

2) if you have calipers measure the distance from the edge of the rear sight to the stock on both sides.

Fixes for their manufacturing mistake ought to be on their dime in my opinion.

If that fails post pics of the rifle and their response on this site and a few others. Then email links to their CS.
 
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