Loading coated bullets for the first time

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I've loaded the Speer 185 SWC just as you described, and so far they shoot and function flawlessly. Feeding and ejection are 100% so far in my 3" 1911, which can be a little finicky with OAL and crimp.
Well, now that you know you like them... if you order the 185gr Coated SWC from Missouri Bullet Co you'll get a 5% discount due to being a member of THR.
https://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=244&category=5&secondary=13


...is there anything else I should look out for...?
Oh man, you left yourself open for this one....



Hope this helps !
 
Bullets arrived yesterday, but I'm having problems finding data for 185 lswc.

I believe I can use 200 lswc data. Would this be correct?

chris
 
You can use 200 gr data, but if you look at 185 vs 200 data you'll see that there's a big difference in the data. Get a Lyman Cast Bullet manual. If has the data you seek.
 
Thanks.

I do have the Lyman 50th, but it doesn't have the 185 listed. Guess I'll have to order the Lyman Cast manual.

chris
 
Since I liked the Speer bullets so much, I ordered some more a few days ago (I was just about out) and thought I would add 500 of the Acme coated bullets to try. They should be here in a couple of weeks, and I'm looking forward to loading and shooting them.

Besides the 0.035" shoulder above the brass, is there anything else I should look out for or pay special attention to?
Only that members of THR get discounts on Rocky Mntn Reloading and Missouri Bullet Co web sites. You might want to concentrate your ordering on those web sites. Since there are very few mold makers, most bullet casters offer nearly identical products, and MBC makes a very, very nice SWC bullet.
 
Only that members of THR get discounts on Rocky Mntn Reloading and Missouri Bullet Co web sites. You might want to concentrate your ordering on those web sites. Since there are very few mold makers, most bullet casters offer nearly identical products, and MBC makes a very, very nice SWC bullet.

Thanks for all the help. Next time I'm ready to place an order I'll have to ask for the code.:cool:

chris
 
As I remember, the list of codes was last seen with a member named "Bernie". He's out of the race now, but has not given up his delegates. And you should be aware that he may consider discount codes to be a sinister and greedy capitalist plot, so you may get a lecture.

o_O
 
As was earlier stated, a good flare is needed to keep from shaving off the coating. No coating=no lubrication... which is bad.

Acme haven’t caused me issues in the .44, ,45 Colt and .45/70 cartridges I’ve loaded so far.

Stay safe.
 
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On the left is my Speer 185 swc tmj, on the right is my Acme 185 swc coated dummy round.

I seated it to 1.248", for a starting point, then measured from the base to the shoulder as suggested. My measurement is 0.934" ~ 0.937" depending on where I measured. So I think I got that part taken care of.

I also chambered the round from the magazine four times to check feeding and ejection, and all was well. Finally I measured my oal again to check for setback and the measurement is still 1.248".

So thanks again everybody, now it's time to find my starting charge and load some for a ladder test.

chris
 
That, is a very crimped crimp.
Yep, it looks like too much taper "crimp", which could be why you had issues seating and crimping in the same step. The taper "crimp" should remove the belling or maybe a hair more, neck tension holds the bullet, the taper "crimp" is simply to remove the bell for smooth feeding.

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Setting it up in two steps is easier, no doubt, not needed for this application, but still easier.
 
I agree that it is a heavy taper crimp, but at .470" my loads won't chamber in my Kimber, and at .469" it is hit or miss as to whether they will chamber or not. So I crimp to .468 ~ .4685 and they all chamber every time.

chris
 
I have a Dan Wesson that is also that tight. It takes impressing on the bullet to chamber. I had thought of having it fixed, but it shoots nice, why mess that up? The others shoot the same with the ammunition, so an extra tight crimp in two steps is my method.
 
I have a Dan Wesson that is also that tight. It takes impressing on the bullet to chamber. I had thought of having it fixed, but it shoots nice, why mess that up? The others shoot the same with the ammunition, so an extra tight crimp in two steps is my method.

My thoughts exactly. My Kimber with a 3" barrel will hit cans at 25yds with good ammo, and I don't feel the need to "fix" it.

chris
 
Follow up range report on my first ever coated rounds:

I finally got to the range yesterday and was able to shoot these 185gr Acme coated bullets. Haven't been shooting in a couple of months, and really need to get out more to unload some brass. Here are a few pics, first is my 3x5 load card front side, second is the same load card but the back side.

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And here is a target with 20 rounds (10 at 4.9gr and 10 at 5.0gr) shot standing at 7yds two handed.

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The gf liked the 4.6gr load, but the heavier charges were more accurate for me. We brought along a .22 revolver and the lighter loads actually felt close in recoil to the revolver. The heavier loads were still plenty mild to me, although she didn't much care for them.

All but one round loaded and cycled fine. It didn't go fully into battery, and I found the problem to be a bit of oil in the magazine, causing bullet jump in the round below it and consequently the ftf. I've had this happen before, and cleaning the magazine well should take care of it.

All the rounds were fired through the 3" Kimber in the below pic. Didn't think to take the 5" but will next time.

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All in all a good day, very happy with the results and think I have found a load I and the gun like.

Thanks again to all for the help and advice. Very much appreciate everything.

chris
 
Groups look great! I just tried some Bayou 38s swc coated and was surprised that they shot better than my plain MBC favorites - and none of the lube smoke..........
 
Don’t bother with 155s. Not enough bearing surface for accuracy. Like trying to make a plate fly without tumbling.
Me: "That's strange. I shoot the Lee 160 grain RN .452 'Pancakes' just fine. Let's see what these SWCs look like."
*Searches online*
:eek:
Me: "That's not a plate. Those are frigin Top hats."

Why on earth is the SWC portion that long? o_O Feeding?
 
Me: "That's strange. I shoot the Lee 160 grain RN .452 'Pancakes' just fine. Let's see what these SWCs look like."
*Searches online*
:eek:
Me: "That's not a plate. Those are frigin Top hats."

Why on earth is the SWC portion that long? o_O Feeding?

Man, I have no idea why they are like that, but guys shooting steel on a budget and had single stack .45s used to use them because you could load them with very mild recoil and they knocked steel plates down with authority. Problem was, much beyond 25 feet, they did very funny things.
 
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