Most modern “battle/combat” style rifles seem backwards to me.

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These are things that never occur to me, if something feels out of place or awkward I just push on and practice more. Eventually it will feel right. Kind of like guys looking for some pistol that just "feels right", you aren't trying to hold the thing forever , just learn to be effective with what's available. No big deal.
 
These are things that never occur to me, if something feels out of place or awkward I just push on and practice more. Eventually it will feel right. Kind of like guys looking for some pistol that just "feels right", you aren't trying to hold the thing forever , just learn to be effective with what's available. No big deal.
Obviously you can overcome almost anything if you enough. That said, time spent training is much more useful if the thing you’re training is intuitive to you in the first place.
 
As a lefty shooting ar left handed I often think the rifle works better for lefties than righties but really it’s just so ergonomic it works great for both

I keep my firing hand on the grip for all types of mag reloads. It’s easy to support my carbines with one hand on the grip because I build them that way. I use heavy stocks and light handguards

I operate the ch with strong hand but rarely have to do so because I can almost always use the bolt release. The exception is malfunction clearing drills.

Bolt guns are different. Very strong advantage to manipulating bolt and trigger with same hand. Thus you need to get it set up for you. I would only use a left handed one.
 
So, my first introduction into rifles designed for war fighting, especially semi-auto rifles was with the m4 carbine. I’ve shot a lot of other such arms between then and now and one thing that gets me, is that for me the all seem to be designed backwards.

I want to be able to manipulate the bolt, mag release, and all other controls with my left hand (being right handed) and without having to turn the rifle to the 90 degrees to get to the things I need. The only thing that should be on the right side is the mag release (but really it should be ambi) and the ejection port.

Am I just being dumb or has anyone else felt like this too?

Additionally: I feel this way about bolt guns too. Right handed bolt guns should be fully manipulatable (made that up myself lol) with the left hand.

Edit: while most of the discussion is focusing on the M4/AR platform, I find this to be true even with AK and M14 styled rifles too.

Sounds strange to me.... Although I’m disabled & have my left arm/hand paralyzed now, I can’t imagine manipulating an AR exactly in it’s time tested configuration. But then, I can’t even tell you how many shooters I had to Re-Train in proper pistol grip while I was an Firearms Instructor. Get people out of that damn cup & saucer grip..UHHHG! So, I’ve seen just about every one of the goofy habit people teach themselves to shoot in. Amazing how many seem to do the exact same bad habits for the most part. It’s uncanny! Almost like they are FOLLOWING one another...like..like SHEEP, you might say! :rofl:
 
These are things that never occur to me, if something feels out of place or awkward I just push on and practice more. Eventually it will feel right. Kind of like guys looking for some pistol that just "feels right", you aren't trying to hold the thing forever , just learn to be effective with what's available. No big deal.

Thank you Obturation. Exactly what I’ve always taught to students! Like people throwing their thumb BEHIND the slide! We’ve all seen it. But as an former instructor, you would not believe how rampant it is. Because it “feeels” good to them.
 
Obviously you can overcome almost anything if you enough. That said, time spent training is much more useful if the thing you’re training is intuitive to you in the first place.
Yes and no. If something is difficult , it will make you learn, like playing chess against a novice- you won't improve but spend time getting your butt whooped and you will improve. Nothing good is easy. The best shooters don't care which gun it is, they'll shoot it better than almost anyone. Learning to do something that doesn't come naturally will teach you more than practice at something you're already comfortable with.
 
My.opinion is that if we force our selves to conform to everything, then there's little room for improvement in design/function, personal or otherwise.
As I said before, I really like right side charging ARs, and that's how mine are built. I prefer using my right hand to do all the work as well.
I see zero advantage to going back to a rear charging gun for my usage.
That doesn't mean i can't run a gun from then left side, or use my left hand to run the controls. It just means MY guns are set up the way I like them.


Personally I'm not trained, or paid, to train people in anything gun related, So i try not to, but I've seen a fair number of folks doing stuff, just because " that's the way ya do it!" Not because it worked particularly well for them.
 
Maybe I am more backwards. I put BAD levers on my ARs so I can operate the bolt release with my trigger finger. I push in on the magazine release, insert fresh mag, and my trigger finger hits the release on the trip back to the trigger. Makes more sense to me this way than palm striking the bolt release on the left side.
 
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