Starting a knife production company

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Would it make sense in general to start a new knife production company given that the market already has established players ? With the Cold Steel news going around it makes me think if theres any profit to be made to continue to make niche large folders and especially if the triad lock or other super lock can be utilized .
 
Would have to see the business case, to judge.
Is the intention for mass produce various items for catalog sales?
Individual production of custom & semi-custom pieces?
Market studies with demand demographics?
Predicted (and/or required) sales points to pay royalties, payroll, and overhead.
Patent licensing in place?
Factory location? New construction or renovation of existing?

Tons of questions, really.
 
Would have to see the business case, to judge.
Is the intention for mass produce various items for catalog sales?
Individual production of custom & semi-custom pieces?
Market studies with demand demographics?
Predicted (and/or required) sales points to pay royalties, payroll, and overhead.
Patent licensing in place?
Factory location? New construction or renovation of existing?

Tons of questions, really.
Yep, slot of questions to be sure. I don't know if my area has enough support to have that kind of work force, alot of tool and die workers and coating techs here maybe that would be it, I'd try to have an american made product in the price point between Bear and Son and Benchmade, offer mid to higher end steels but still be able to keep the cost relatively low, I would need to figure out the rest as you said, it's all just been a passing thought.... a thought that wont leave...
 
In the fishing tackle industry it was long ago figured out that buying a going concern with a brand following was cheaper than a new start-up... Then as too often happened when it wasn't profitable (or profitable enough...) it went offshore (the name anyway) and that's what's lead to the current state of affairs where long known brands haven't been made here in years.... Wish it weren't so but my wishing hasn't slowed the process in the slightest. Doubt that knives would be any different.
 
It's a mature market with durable goods available in amazing diversity at historically low prices, so what could possibly go wrong? :what: Look at who is doing well there and see how long they have been at it to get a glimpse of the potential. Also study the history of Gerber, Kershaw, Western, Camillus, PAL, Utica, Queen City and a host of other cutlery producers long gone. It would take brilliant marketing, low cost production resources and talented design acumen to succeed, but if you can put the pieces together for the long haul, go for it.
 
I know your probably not looking for a new job and this isn’t all about the money but.....

My first thought was, why start up production for a line of knives when starting up importation of a few select product lines would be better for you in every way?
 
Would need to license the lock if that is a key part of your plan, IF they will license it to you.

There are plenty of makers of large folders on the custom side and nothing to say that Cold Steel is going to stop making theirs (yet).

Not saying that it can't be done but I'm not seeing the space there to wiggle into. Sadly, many people are fine buying junk knives and they don't much value the Made in USA mark on something.

You would have to find demand in the space above the junk, below the custom guys and at a price point people will pay.
 
offer mid to higher end steels but still be able to keep the cost relatively low
The mid & higher end steels are (typically) more expensive, typically from labor costs.
Finding US source steel is going to be complicated at best. Any extra-national steel is always going to be at risk of tariff, boycott, trade war or the like.

A knife factory is not just a couple of lathes and a milling machine or two. Industrial design is an engineering discipline, and is as unforgiving as any other rules-based discipline. Scale is hugely important, too. Numeric control, whether manual or computer based is not a cure-all.

If you are making ten of a product, you might can use a single machine for that one run (note that each one of those has to be priced to pay for the entire run, labor, taxes, costs, and all the overhead). More than a thousand or so, you need a machine that does one process at a time. per each process needed to make the part. That way the machine can be set up to use one fixture or jig, and have just the one cutting tool (which can be gauged for tolerance, to know when to replace it). Reducing the set up time is critical in volume production.

Volume production means your main overhead (per product) is machine time and not labor time.

It's one thing to be Mike Loveless in a long paid-for shop and a payroll of one, and quite another to be Benchmade.
 
Most knife companies have knives made for them so there is little need to start from zero.
 
There are ff the shelf options but I'm not in that side to advise. The few that I know have a custom side, a mid-tech to full overseas build done based on their designs. If you have the passion and willingness to pursue I'd give you the thumbs up. Produce a quality product, get it out there and take the ride.

People like Matt Conable of William Henry, he had a great vision and with quality work he's come a long way.

Jeff Hall is a fellow local maker when he was in Seal Beach. This is his company now:
https://www.nemesis-knives.com/about/
 
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