stonebuster
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Anyone else read CZ discontinued their 715 revolver? Priced at $1300 was too steep for me when identical older models were available for half that price. The release of the new Python probably cut into 715 sales too.
Dan Wesson 715 discontinued?
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Jonny V
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That’s too bad...and yeah, the price was high. For $1300 you can get a vintage blued DW with a couple barrels.
Charlie98
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Unfortunately, the byproduct of the high CZ price was to artificially drive up classic DW prices.
CraigC
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You would think a robust and extremely accurate revolver with easily interchangeable barrels would be a big hit but it never was. Which is really a shame. If they can't keep a medium frame .357 on the market, nothing else has a chance. Which is an even bigger shame.
anothernewb
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I've had and sold 2 separate 15-2 sets. it's a shame really. they are great pistols. The interchangeable barrel concept was great. and I felt well executed in the monson models.
Charlie98
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Personally, and although the .357 Model 15 was their bread and butter, for that price they should have made them in .41/.44/.45... I think it would have fit the market better.
They are a 1911 company
No revolvers. Probably not enough demand for a limited item Sad but the way it is
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/715-revolver/
No revolvers. Probably not enough demand for a limited item Sad but the way it is
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/715-revolver/
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Could be. I never handled one of the CZ guns but as far as I know, they shouldn't have cost any more to produce than a comparable Ruger or S&W. The added cost should've only been in extra barrels, which were also not cheap. I did order one of their .44 barrels and it was over $400. Being produced only in stainless steel would've been a deal breaker for me.
no.5enfield
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Several of the reviews I saw showed questionable QC and poor triggers for the money. I don't know if that was just luck of the draw, or what, but it scared me away from buying.
UncleEd
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Handled a few. I found the barrel underlug a
turnoff; it was very squared off and sharp. I didn't
particularly care for the feel of the double
action trigger.
For those who lament the 715 passing then they should
already own one.
turnoff; it was very squared off and sharp. I didn't
particularly care for the feel of the double
action trigger.
For those who lament the 715 passing then they should
already own one.
ApacheCoTodd
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Too bad. I kept hoping they'd get their .357 feet under them and venture into the old Monson calibers as well as a .44 and its variations.
I guess the real impact for me will be that the new parts will go away.
Todd.
I guess the real impact for me will be that the new parts will go away.
Todd.
Several thoughts. I never handled a CZ Dan Wesson but from what I read some of the parts such as hammer and trigger which originally were sintered metal were changed to forged which may have affected price. Another factor influencing price is the low production rate. Before the current situation with prices on guns one could almost buy 2 guns for the price of one of the new Dan Wessons. I agree with UncleEd regarding the barrel underlug. When I had mine, an old one, I had the 1/2 lug barrel on it. Also, I found it usually wound up just sporting the 4" barrel. I think barrel interchangeability is great for locations that limit the number of firearms owned but that does not impact me. What with Dan Wesson coming and going several times over the years one might also be concerned about whether parts and support would be available in the future
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stonebuster
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There seem to be plenty of parts on eBay for the DW revolvers and they're extremely easy to work on. I've got two 15-2 DW 357s one of which has a pretty good DA trigger and the other doesn't but i'm working on it. SA on both is very good. I prefer the 1/2 lug with 6" or longer barrels and being able to change barrels is more than a novelty to me. Setting the B/C gap tighter than normal factory gaps(that can vary) is a big plus. If you wear out a barrel you can just replace it. Taking the barrel off to clean the gun makes it much easier to get the forcing cone area clean. Popping the barrel off to clear a squib a couple weeks ago made it easier. Up until recently you could still find nice older DWs for $500-600. A year and a half ago I got one for @$300. The 715 never appealed to me because I favor the high gloss blue vs SS and the internal parts in the 715 are exactly the same as the 15-2.
ApacheCoTodd
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Plus, my DW was the second - which is to say the last
- revolver that I have used for handgun hunting. One set-up was specifically for white-tail and the others for, well.... other stuff&things.For the longest time, my only three handguns were the DW, a Gold Cup and a DCM 1911.
Definitely a ++,+ for me.
Todd.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
Then get the short lug.
My two DW's have excellent DA triggers.
I may lament the passing of a lot of guns I have not yet had the opportunity to get.
CraigC
Sixgun Nut
I 'may' have agreed before I got one and four or five barrels.
I've needed 'some' parts but availability has not been an issue. It always baffles me that people won't buy guns because they are no current production parts available.
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stonebuster
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They were designed to make it easy for the owner to work on them without needing a gunsmith in most cases.
ApacheCoTodd
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They truly are simplicity itself.
If CZ lets this go commercially - it'd be a hell of a thing if production returned to our shores taking advantage of changes in machining techniques, marketing and the market that have evolved over the past several years.
Imagine:
An 8-shot intermediate.
A full range hunting line.
An alternative to the Kimber revolver.
Suppressor-ready. I know, it's a revolver but they still benefit in a hunting environment. Suppressor.... NOT *silencer*.
So many more.
Todd.
UncleEd
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Then get the short lug.
My two DW's have excellent DA triggers.
I may lament the passing of a lot of guns I have not yet had the opportunity to get.
Where or when have you seen a 715 offered with a half or "short" lug?
Are you talking about the CZ Dan Wesson or the originals which I
tended to like?
Jonny V
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The “half lug” barrel he’s referring to is just the Standard Rib, or the Standard Vent Rib...the full lug barrels are the ones with the square jaw and are a good bit heavier. Search “Dan Wesson barrel” on eBay, you’ll see lots of each....
I would spend good money form a 5 shot 44 special on the model 15 frame!!
I would spend good money form a 5 shot 44 special on the model 15 frame!!
ApacheCoTodd
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I've a sense he's referring to the - until recently - offered CZ models rather than existing, available U.S. parts in the secondary market.The “half lug” barrel he’s referring to is just the Standard Rib, or the Standard Vent Rib...the full lug barrels are the ones with the square jaw and are a good bit heavier. Search “Dan Wesson barrel” on eBay, you’ll see lots of each....
I would spend good money form a 5 shot 44 special on the model 15 frame!!
Todd.
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UncleEd
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Exactly. I'm referring to the 715 from CZ which
apparently has been recently discontinued.
CaptHank
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I own two Dan Wesson revolvers, 741 & 15-2. They get plenty of range time and many rounds are reloaded for the pair. I still kick myself for missing out on a 445, about 10 years ago. Just a $50.00 price haggle.
NIGHTLORD40K
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I seriously doubt DW gave a thought to making the guns internals easily serviced by the end-user. Much like Colt did with the MK3 series, the design would have lent itself to quick assembly by semi-skilled labor.
Fortunately, as with Colt, the labor time saved on assembly was put to good use in the final finish and polishing.
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