stonebuster
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Anyone else read CZ discontinued their 715 revolver? Priced at $1300 was too steep for me when identical older models were available for half that price. The release of the new Python probably cut into 715 sales too.
If they can't keep a medium frame .357 on the market, nothing else has a chance.
Could be. I never handled one of the CZ guns but as far as I know, they shouldn't have cost any more to produce than a comparable Ruger or S&W. The added cost should've only been in extra barrels, which were also not cheap. I did order one of their .44 barrels and it was over $400. Being produced only in stainless steel would've been a deal breaker for me.Personally, and although the .357 Model 15 was their bread and butter, for that price they should have made them in .41/.44/.45... I think it would have fit the market better.
There seem to be plenty of parts on eBay for the DW revolvers and they're extremely easy to work on. I've got two 15-2 DW 357s one of which has a pretty good DA trigger and the other doesn't but i'm working on it. SA on both is very good. I prefer the 1/2 lug with 6" or longer barrels and being able to change barrels is more than a novelty to me. Setting the B/C gap tighter than normal factory gaps(that can vary) is a big plus. If you wear out a barrel you can just replace it. Taking the barrel off to clean the gun makes it much easier to get the forcing cone area clean. Popping the barrel off to clear a squib a couple weeks ago made it easier. Up until recently you could still find nice older DWs for $500-600. A year and a half ago I got one for @$300. The 715 never appealed to me because I favor the high gloss blue vs SS and the internal parts in the 715 are exactly the same as the 15-2.Several thoughts. I never handled a CZ Dan Wesson but from what I read some of the parts such as hammer and trigger which originally were sintered metal were changed to forged which may have affected price. Another factor influencing price is the low production rate. Before the current situation with prices on guns one could almost buy 2 guns for the price of one of the new Dan Wessons. I agree with UncleEd regarding the barrel underlug. When I had mine, an old one, I had the 1/2 lug barrel on it. Also, I found it usually wound up just sporting the 4" barrel. I think barrel interchangeability is great for locations that limit the number of firearms owned but that does not impact me. What with Dan Wesson coming and going several times over the years one might also be concerned about whether parts and support would be available in the future
Plus, my DW was the second - which is to say the last - revolver that I have used for handgun hunting. One set-up was specifically for white-tail and the others for, well.... other stuff&things.There seem to be plenty of parts on eBay for the DW revolvers and they're extremely easy to work on. I've got two 15-2 DW 357s one of which has a pretty good DA trigger and the other doesn't but i'm working on it. SA on both is very good. I prefer the 1/2 lug with 6" or longer barrels and being able to change barrels is more than a novelty to me. Setting the B/C gap tighter than normal factory gaps(that can vary) is a big plus. If you wear out a barrel you can just replace it. Taking the barrel off to clean the gun makes it much easier to get the forcing cone area clean. Popping the barrel off to clear a squib a couple weeks ago made it easier. Up until recently you could still find nice older DWs for $500-600. A year and a half ago I got one for @$300. The 715 never appealed to me because I favor the high gloss blue vs SS and the internal parts in the 715 are exactly the same as the 15-2.
Then get the short lug.Handled a few. I found the barrel underlug a
turnoff; it was very squared off and sharp. I didn't
particularly care for the feel of the double
action trigger.
For those who lament the 715 passing then they should
already own one.
I 'may' have agreed before I got one and four or five barrels.I think barrel interchangeability is great for locations that limit the number of firearms owned but that does not impact me.
They truly are simplicity itself.They were designed to make it easy for the owner to work on them without needing a gunsmith in most cases. View attachment 969154
Then get the short lug.
My two DW's have excellent DA triggers.
I may lament the passing of a lot of guns I have not yet had the opportunity to get.
I've a sense he's referring to the - until recently - offered CZ models rather than existing, available U.S. parts in the secondary market.The “half lug” barrel he’s referring to is just the Standard Rib, or the Standard Vent Rib...the full lug barrels are the ones with the square jaw and are a good bit heavier. Search “Dan Wesson barrel” on eBay, you’ll see lots of each....
I would spend good money form a 5 shot 44 special on the model 15 frame!!
I've a sense he's referring to the until recently offered CZ models rather than existing, available U.S. parts in the secondary market.
Todd.
I seriously doubt DW gave a thought to making the guns internals easily serviced by the end-user. Much like Colt did with the MK3 series, the design would have lent itself to quick assembly by semi-skilled labor.They were designed to make it easy for the owner to work on them without needing a gunsmith in most cases. View attachment 969154